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1 One of the answers to this whole thing is to actually allow people to buy drugs. After all, 100 years ago, you could obtain anything you desired and somehow, we did not have significant problems in the years before those laws were passed. Now I am well aware that about 10% of the population was incapacitated by drugs, which is about the same as now. But consider what would happen if you could go to Walgreen's and buy anything you wanted without a doctor's permission (the same as the state's permission), in other words, if we actually lived in a free society.

It would mean the end of the gangs, cartells, terrorist and any other bad guys that fund themselves from selling the junk. It would mean the elimination of the DEA, ATF, much of the prison system, many of the judges and other people that restrict us, the elmination of many police officers. It would mean less hep C, and AIDS. In short, you would have more freedom, less government expenditure, fewer people killed in their homes by SWAT. We would live in the country of the free again, or at least beginning to get there. The bad side, people who want to destroy their lives could do so, just as they are doing now. It would also mean that you could take control of your health if you wanted, you would not be forced to see a doctor for every need that you have (I am a doctor). My waiting room would be reduce in volume by about 50%.

2 Indeed 'david'.

If we ate better, we could eliminate many of your kind and save some of the 100,000 people killed every year by medical mistakes and neglect.

Maybe you should tell us how many people are readily killed by Big Pharma & prescribers, "in their homes"! (Vioxx killed how many thousands?)

BTW, IMO most of our freedoms are now illusory, and all we really have are choices.

3 Touche Buck! "Ouch" David - I guess Buck scores a point against your libertarian mantra.

4 Pst!! Hey lets not tell David, but FDA estimated 88,000 - 139,000 heart attachs, with 30% - 40% fatal. Ouch!

5 Just for giggles I went over there. I don't believe that I have ever seen so much willfull ignorance on display since the nitwh was elected. 'Course that does pretty much explain his election...

6 Not exactly sure what you are talking about Buck. First the eating thing, please read a little more, if you did, you would find that some of the major nutrition journals are indicating that eating has little to do with causing heart diseasem our much else other than obesity.

Now, in the next breath you tell me that you clearly desire not to have freedoms. In this case, the freedom to go obtain a medication and treat yourself. Let say you were working in the yard, pulled your back and you knew it was a muscle spasm from previous experience. Now what I want is for you do go get what you need at the drug store and if you continue with problems then see a doctor. What you and Obama desire, is for you to go to the government run doctor office. If you go private you are looking at a 2 week wait or go to the ER and get charged $2500, which will not be covered under Obamacare. At the doctor, you have to beg to get the medication you desire. Then you go to the drug store.

You see, if you look, you will find most libertarian to be professionals and people of intellect. Not those that willingly blow off their freedom for care by the state.

7 Dear david,

["....people of intellect."]
Yeah, knowledge without wisdom!

Just to be clear, I'm not pleased with our prevailing medical system that pays for performance, but not for positive outcomes. I also believe a statist national health care will make things more harmful, as it will reward people for not giving care. I see an N.D., in another state as TN does not recognize them (although they allowed my select-fire and SBR collection....talk about the lack of freedoms). He only gets paid if he keeps me healthy. I am a true vegan and I don't eat food prepared by others. Hence, I am perplexed about your victuals claiming a wholesome consumption practice parallels the grossly obese Coca-Cola sipper and junk eater?

How many hours of nutritional training does one receive in medical school?

8 buck,
If you look closely at what I am saying, then we are basically on the same page. People should be in charge of their bodies, a doctor is only a consultant. Your medical system is broght to you by our federal government. It has become worse over the last 30 years as a result of increased government input. Frankly, I don't give a hoot who you see, that is your problem. All I want is access to drugs as I think it is wrong for the government to say who gets them and who doesn't.

9 Dear david,

Agreed.


Strength & Honor,
Buck