Eric Fuller's Blood Libel
You can be both the wounded survivor of a massacre and a vile,opportunistic, jerk:
We now know from interviews with multiple people that Jared Lee Loughner did not actively follow politics, didn't listen to talk radio, or watch cable news. The one person who did describe him having any sort of political bent at any time remembers that several years ago he could have been described as very liberal. These are all well-know, published facts. Eric Fuller, however, has chosen to keep right on demonizing political figures on the right, even though there is even indication that Loughner was in his own insane little world and may have been completely unaware that Boehner, Palin, Angle and Beck even existed, outside of possibly knowing their names. Mr. Fuller, I'm glad that you served your nation in the past, but you are doing it a great disservice now. You dishonor yourself. You dishonor the dead. And you spread far more bile and hatred than anyone else you would blame.
A wounded survivor of the Tuscon shooting that critically injured Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is blaming Sarah Palin, House Speaker John Boehner, Fox TV host Glenn Beck, and former Nevada GOP Senate candidate Sharron Angle for the tragedy. "It looks like Palin, Beck, Sharron Angle and the rest got their first target," Eric Fuller said in an interview with Democracy NOW. "Their wish for Second Amendment activism has been fulfilled — senseless hatred leading to murder, lunatic fringe anarchism, subscribed to by John Boehner, mainstream rebels with vengeance for all, even 9-year-old girls," he added, referring to the death of Christina Taylor Green.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 01:16 PM
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Fuller, according to the news reports, is a 63-year old VETERAN. Why wasn't he armed and available to fight back? No CCW permit required to carry in Arizona.
"We are our own last line of defense; we are responsible for protecting our own life and our families, and those around us." http://blogs.naplesnews.com/florida-law/2011/01/the-tragedy-in-arizona-whos-to-blame-whats-to-learn.html
"We are our own last line of defense; we are responsible for protecting our own life and our families, and those around us." http://blogs.naplesnews.com/florida-law/2011/01/the-tragedy-in-arizona-whos-to-blame-whats-to-learn.html
Posted by: Steve in TN at January 14, 2011 01:32 PM (6lc+N)
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I agree with Steve in TN... a civility imposed by fear of retaliation is better than no civility at all.
Marianne
Marianne
Posted by: Marianne Matthews at January 14, 2011 01:49 PM (Aaj8s)
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I invite this Eric Fuller moron to move to Cuba. I'm pretty sure that particular worker's paradise has no 2nd Amendment *and* free health comes with the package.
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Posted by: LibertyAtStake at January 14, 2011 02:06 PM (A5zyE)
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Duct Tape. Really the only solution to the blood libel. If they are going to continue to insist upon slandering people, then we just have to tape their mouths shut until they learn to tell the truth.
Truth is not fluid, it is what it is. And in this case, it is that Jared Loughner was stark raving mad.
Truth is not fluid, it is what it is. And in this case, it is that Jared Loughner was stark raving mad.
Posted by: brian at January 14, 2011 02:17 PM (y05cf)
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Why do you conservatives always have to play the victim? There was a tragic shooting in Arizona where 19 people were shot for no apparent reason by a mentally disturbed person. As of right now, no one knows why he in fact targeted the Congresswoman (other than this was pre-mediatation - since he looks like he was obsessed with her). Both sies, but more on the right need to stop with the vitrole and using terms like "blood libel," which should have never been used by your group to describe the in some ways rightful blame on Limbaugh, Hanity, Beck, Faux News, Angle, Palin, Boehner, McConnell, McCain, and the rest of your tea party candidates. You never heard a prgressive or "liberal" person telling their supporters to use "2nd Amendment Remedies," " Cross-hairs on map of districts with the other candidates name in the actual cross'hair," "This is OUR revolution," and "Don't Retreat, RELOAD" when talking about healthcare or the 2010 election. both sides played a part and EVERYONE needs to take responsibility for their words and actions. If not, this country will never be able to a civil discourse and another senseless tragedy will rear its ugly head on this country!
Posted by: Sandra at January 14, 2011 03:25 PM (TuOup)
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- "You never heard a prgressive or "liberal" person telling their supporters to use "2nd Amendment Remedies," " Cross-hairs on map of districts with the other candidates name in the actual cross'hair," "This is OUR revolution," and "Don't Retreat, RELOAD" when talking about healthcare or the 2010 election."
Sorry Sandra, but you're displaying nothing but ignorance here (in addition to the hypocrisy of chastising the right when "19 people were shot for no apparent reason" after your idols on the left were...within hours after the shooting, before the bodies were even cold...rushing to cynically capitalize on the incident for partisan political purposes). Well-known instances of politicians and campaigners on the left using exactly the same kind of militaristic metaphors and rhetoric during that time frame have been pointed out on countless on-line sources (including, but not limited to, then-candidate Obama's famous "If they bring a knife to the fight, we'll bring a gun", the DNC's use of a map containing bullseyes over several "target" districts...including Rep. Gifford's, The Daily Kos' screeds about how Giffords was "DEAD to me!", and their identification of her as a political "target" of theirs, a Dem Congressman who railed of his opponent that they should "Line him up against a wall and SHOOT him!", etc, etc.)
People who live in glass houses, and all that.
Sorry Sandra, but you're displaying nothing but ignorance here (in addition to the hypocrisy of chastising the right when "19 people were shot for no apparent reason" after your idols on the left were...within hours after the shooting, before the bodies were even cold...rushing to cynically capitalize on the incident for partisan political purposes). Well-known instances of politicians and campaigners on the left using exactly the same kind of militaristic metaphors and rhetoric during that time frame have been pointed out on countless on-line sources (including, but not limited to, then-candidate Obama's famous "If they bring a knife to the fight, we'll bring a gun", the DNC's use of a map containing bullseyes over several "target" districts...including Rep. Gifford's, The Daily Kos' screeds about how Giffords was "DEAD to me!", and their identification of her as a political "target" of theirs, a Dem Congressman who railed of his opponent that they should "Line him up against a wall and SHOOT him!", etc, etc.)
People who live in glass houses, and all that.
Posted by: WuzYoungOnceToo at January 14, 2011 04:05 PM (2npKC)
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Sandra, can you please provide a quote from Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Fox News, Sharron Angle, Sarah Palin, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, John McCain or anyone associated with the Tea Party that backs up your assertion? You know, a quote like "they bring a knife, we bring a gun" or "hit back twice as hard" (both courtesy of President Obama).
Or, can you provide any evidence this nut case Loughner was influenced in any way by the parties you have mentioned?
It is not a case of "play the victim" when someone is accusing you of something that is absolutely untrue. It is called defending yourself against slurs and lies.
Or, can you provide any evidence this nut case Loughner was influenced in any way by the parties you have mentioned?
It is not a case of "play the victim" when someone is accusing you of something that is absolutely untrue. It is called defending yourself against slurs and lies.
Posted by: Frank at January 14, 2011 04:18 PM (BTTlx)
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I'm sorry, Sandra, but you're either completely insulated from reality, or pathologically dishonest.
my fellow blogger zombie has compiled a sampling of just some of the leftist hate that came to characterize the left from 2000-2008, from the "Bush=Hitler" nuttiness to a continuous scream of death threats... and do we even want to get into what you could find on the most popular lefty blogs, particularly in their comments, or on places like the Democratic Underground? I supposed you also put the lefty fetish murder film "Death of a President" completely out of your mind, along with air America's Randi Rhodes making her four gunshot warning against Bush as well.
Of course, what else should we expect from the American Left? You spent the 60s, 70s, and even the early part of the 1980s in various domestic terror groups, and once you include the bomb and arson-minded green faction of the progressive movement, you can argue that your side had been in an unbroken, low-intensity war against this nation for the better part of 50 years.
I suspect that the threat of "Second Amendment remedies" is the only thing that has stopped American leftists from doing what their soul-mates and fellow travelers have done in programs, reeducation camps, "great leaps forward" and "killing fields" that have slaughtered an estimated more than 100 million people worldwide. Even our own President has close ties to the leaders of a Marxist terrorist cell that plotted the deaths of 25 million Americans. How can you remotely claim the mantle of Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln, when drenched in the blood left by your idols, Stalin, Mao, and Che?
When your side is finally ready to admit your bloody pedigree and will finally be honest about who and what you are, we'll be around to talk. But don't expect us to be quiet willing victims of your designs on freedom and liberty.
my fellow blogger zombie has compiled a sampling of just some of the leftist hate that came to characterize the left from 2000-2008, from the "Bush=Hitler" nuttiness to a continuous scream of death threats... and do we even want to get into what you could find on the most popular lefty blogs, particularly in their comments, or on places like the Democratic Underground? I supposed you also put the lefty fetish murder film "Death of a President" completely out of your mind, along with air America's Randi Rhodes making her four gunshot warning against Bush as well.
Of course, what else should we expect from the American Left? You spent the 60s, 70s, and even the early part of the 1980s in various domestic terror groups, and once you include the bomb and arson-minded green faction of the progressive movement, you can argue that your side had been in an unbroken, low-intensity war against this nation for the better part of 50 years.
I suspect that the threat of "Second Amendment remedies" is the only thing that has stopped American leftists from doing what their soul-mates and fellow travelers have done in programs, reeducation camps, "great leaps forward" and "killing fields" that have slaughtered an estimated more than 100 million people worldwide. Even our own President has close ties to the leaders of a Marxist terrorist cell that plotted the deaths of 25 million Americans. How can you remotely claim the mantle of Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln, when drenched in the blood left by your idols, Stalin, Mao, and Che?
When your side is finally ready to admit your bloody pedigree and will finally be honest about who and what you are, we'll be around to talk. But don't expect us to be quiet willing victims of your designs on freedom and liberty.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at January 14, 2011 04:28 PM (gAi9Z)
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Democracy NOW is a very liberal rag. Probably gave him both the questions and multiple choice answers.
Posted by: LAZRTX at January 14, 2011 05:15 PM (WvqFW)
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Just another pathetic attempt by the left to use a tragedy perpetrated by a lunatic to justify removing freedoms.
All the while ignoring why Dupnik never took the steps that would have ensured that Loughner could not have acquired a pistol. Because, after all, removing the ability of law-abiding people to defend themselves with firearms (which we do over 2 million times a year) is important to prevent lunatics from attacking. yeah, right.
All the while ignoring why Dupnik never took the steps that would have ensured that Loughner could not have acquired a pistol. Because, after all, removing the ability of law-abiding people to defend themselves with firearms (which we do over 2 million times a year) is important to prevent lunatics from attacking. yeah, right.
Posted by: iconoclast at January 14, 2011 05:16 PM (Srqoz)
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But who can prove that “hateful rhetoric” affects anybody to do anything.
Think back to a church in Chicago whose pastor, Jeremiah Wright, screamed out things like “God Damn America.” A certain parishioner of 20 years, we were told, was totally unaffected.
Is Fuller disputing that last part.
Think back to a church in Chicago whose pastor, Jeremiah Wright, screamed out things like “God Damn America.” A certain parishioner of 20 years, we were told, was totally unaffected.
Is Fuller disputing that last part.
Posted by: Neo at January 14, 2011 05:51 PM (tvs2p)
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The left will NOT let a crisis go to waste, even if the have to smear people in the process... And Sandra is living under a rock somewhere, obviously disconnected from reality!
Posted by: Old NFO at January 14, 2011 06:57 PM (DB2/U)
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actually all of the people who knew him that said those things had not seen much of him in the recent past. His girl friend ??? well that was 6 years back. Loughner is now a skinhead that should tell us something.
Posted by: John ryan at January 14, 2011 08:40 PM (0YS61)
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Hey snark, what about freedomw of speech? You can't take an oposing viewpoint?
Posted by: -Sandra at January 14, 2011 08:51 PM (TuOup)
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Shove your bullshit sideways, Sandra you toxic filth. Shove your faux concern for civility. Shove your rampant glee at blood in the streets. Most of all, shove your purely tactical concern for truth and your evil "end justifies the means" philosophy. You and your ilk have ripped the facade from your threadbare pretense of debate and shown the rest of us what thugs you really are.
And don't waste time whining about freedom of speech, you leftist totalitarian goon. To you the First Amendment is nothing but a fig leaf for libel.
And don't waste time whining about freedom of speech, you leftist totalitarian goon. To you the First Amendment is nothing but a fig leaf for libel.
Posted by: Steve Skubinna at January 14, 2011 09:31 PM (OtyMc)
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Oh, gee, Sandra- "an opposing viewpoint", you claim? Usually, when one has an "opposing viewpoint", they have a few facts to back it up. Let's see yours.
Oh, right- you don't have any. Sorry, didn't mean to be insensitive to a commie.
Shy III
Oh, right- you don't have any. Sorry, didn't mean to be insensitive to a commie.
Shy III
Posted by: JimShyWolf at January 15, 2011 12:51 AM (gxlpn)
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Honesty is a concept liberals can not Grasp.
The Bill of Right's ,Constitution and Religion are used as weapon's by people who have nothing but contempt for all this country stand's for.
Makes u Sad !
The Bill of Right's ,Constitution and Religion are used as weapon's by people who have nothing but contempt for all this country stand's for.
Makes u Sad !
Posted by: JonboyVT at January 15, 2011 06:31 AM (csI5Q)
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