Mewling Obama Supporter Calls Secret Service, Attempts to Inform on UFC Fighter
The petty little tyrants just can't stand dissenting views, can they?
Volkmann's comments were clearly rhetorical, and requesting someone to compete in an organized sporting event with rules, attending physicians, a referee and panel of judges can in no way a threat. But because our timid little President is so delicate and easily offended, the Secret Service has wasted our tax dollars to harass a citizen and small business owner for comments that would have elicited a yawn under the previous administration, where liberal death threats against President Bush were a staple of their protests. Democrats aren't tough enough to face domestic criticism. We should hardly be surprised that they are so easily rolled by our nation's real enemies.
UFC lightweight Jacob Volkmann, following his UFC 125 win over Antonio McKee, declared that he wanted to fight President Barack Obama for his next fight. [snip] After defeating McKee, Volkmann was asked who he would like to fight next. Volkmann first requested Clay Guida, then said "Actually, Obama. He's not too bright … Someone needs to knock some sense into that idiot. I just don't like what Barack is doing." [snip] The Secret Service showed up both at his residence and during a youth wrestling camp he coaches. [snip] "This guy had the whole interview on a piece of paper and it had my picture and everything," said Volkmann. "He was like 'is this what you said?' and I said, 'yes it is.' He's like 'I want to let you know I'm a little embarrassed for coming here and doing this because obviously nothing happened.' He actually apologized for coming, but he had to come. He wanted to make sure I wasn't going to D.C to hurt the President. "The thing is, I got home and I checked my e-mail and I had about 20 e-mails and one of them, one of ladies had actually contacted the FBI and the Secret Service, and she was telling me that she was going to do it." The person who contacted Volkmann, according to the fighter, was a member of the election committee that worked for President Obama's campaign.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 02:52 PM
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Where does it end??? Our society is going into the tank quicker every day!
Posted by: Old NFO at January 06, 2011 10:33 PM (RijDN)
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Have to disagree with you on this one CY.
Recall back in the days of Clinton being POTUS: then Senator Jesse Helms made a comment in an interview to the effect that Billy Jeff should not be visiting some parts of North Carolina. A few days later that Constitutional Officer got a visit by the Secret Service about what he knew.
Bottom line, you don't go around mouthing off about how you or someone is going to harm POTUS, no matter who POTUS is. It's kinda like talking about blow up planes (also in jest) while waiting to go through airport security.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I didn't like Obama as a Presidential candidate and my views haven't gotten any better.
Recall back in the days of Clinton being POTUS: then Senator Jesse Helms made a comment in an interview to the effect that Billy Jeff should not be visiting some parts of North Carolina. A few days later that Constitutional Officer got a visit by the Secret Service about what he knew.
Bottom line, you don't go around mouthing off about how you or someone is going to harm POTUS, no matter who POTUS is. It's kinda like talking about blow up planes (also in jest) while waiting to go through airport security.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I didn't like Obama as a Presidential candidate and my views haven't gotten any better.
Posted by: Squibob at January 06, 2011 11:51 PM (/U/Mr)
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My impression has always been that you can say anything you want about the president, including wishing him ill. The feds are only supposed to be concerned if you say you're actually going to go after the president, like, "I'm going to Washington right now with a large caliber weapon".
Posted by: bleh at January 07, 2011 12:07 AM (yznYO)
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This is exactly how a Tyranny acts. It is pathetic.
Posted by: newc at January 07, 2011 12:23 AM (ED0Q6)
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I think Obama's race plays into this. His supporters are overly protective of him because they see him first and foremost as a black man. That makes him a perpetual victim.
The fabulously wealthy, strong, successful, intelligent, coddled, and gifted actor Will Smith said that 9/11 made no impression on him, because as a black man in America he experiences terrorism every day.
I'm sure that's how most of Obama's supporters--especially the women--think of him, too.
The fabulously wealthy, strong, successful, intelligent, coddled, and gifted actor Will Smith said that 9/11 made no impression on him, because as a black man in America he experiences terrorism every day.
I'm sure that's how most of Obama's supporters--especially the women--think of him, too.
Posted by: Llarry at January 07, 2011 01:07 AM (jzyXU)
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If the quotes above are all that Volkmann said, then there really is no threat of harm to Obama at all.
However, it's not the threat that bothered the Obama supporter. It was the statement "I just don't like what Barack is doing." We now live in a society where Leftards can write whole plays fantasizing about assassinating a Republican president and nothing happens to them, but Leftards call the Secret Service when they hear someone say they don't like their president is doing. Kinda sounds like the old Soviet Union.
However, it's not the threat that bothered the Obama supporter. It was the statement "I just don't like what Barack is doing." We now live in a society where Leftards can write whole plays fantasizing about assassinating a Republican president and nothing happens to them, but Leftards call the Secret Service when they hear someone say they don't like their president is doing. Kinda sounds like the old Soviet Union.
Posted by: Diggs at January 07, 2011 01:21 AM (JdHGD)
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Squibob, I seem to remember a whole lot of crap aimed at GW Bush [including books and plays and movies that basically seemed to advocate shooting him]. Di the purveyors of said crap get visits from the Secret Service? I don't remember that happening [and I think the MFM would be all over it if it did].
President PrissyPants is a wuss.
President PrissyPants is a wuss.
Posted by: jorgxmckie at January 07, 2011 01:38 AM (290l2)
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My understanding is that the Secret Service is bound to investigate any report of a threat on the President, regardless of how ridiculous it might seem. Several years ago another MMA fighter and avowed anarchist named Jeff Monson was filmed wearing a shirt that said "Assassinate Bush." Monson was also visited by the Secret Service. As improbable as it may be that either man would harm the President, the Secret Service must deal in worst case scenarios involving any potential threat.
Posted by: Angry Dad at January 07, 2011 01:53 AM (loW/4)
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Um, guys ...
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/73880.php
The secret service just has to take this stuff seriously. I imagine that MOST cases are never made public, for obvious reasons. But if somebody appears to be crossing that line then I think the secret service or FBI probably have to act, or it'll be seen as acceptable to publically threaten people in office, and that will make everyone's life a lot harder.
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/73880.php
The secret service just has to take this stuff seriously. I imagine that MOST cases are never made public, for obvious reasons. But if somebody appears to be crossing that line then I think the secret service or FBI probably have to act, or it'll be seen as acceptable to publically threaten people in office, and that will make everyone's life a lot harder.
Posted by: Matthew at January 07, 2011 02:13 AM (ewEyY)
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The USSS is obligated to investigate any and all possible threats to the president and their other principles.
Easiest way to do that is go talk to those people associated with the possible threat, if known, and profile them (yes, that nasty word).
That's what they did, they concluded it was no viable threat, and they went home.
If they didn't so investigate all the threats against President Bush, shame on them, deriliction of duty.
Easiest way to do that is go talk to those people associated with the possible threat, if known, and profile them (yes, that nasty word).
That's what they did, they concluded it was no viable threat, and they went home.
If they didn't so investigate all the threats against President Bush, shame on them, deriliction of duty.
Posted by: JTW at January 07, 2011 02:48 AM (jMRqb)
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Publish her name, address, and phone number. Let her experience the consequences of snitching.
Posted by: PacRim Jim at January 07, 2011 02:57 AM (yManb)
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@AngryDad
But Monson's a different case. He's been arrested for vandalizing the state Capitol Building in Olympia, in addition to a domestic violence arrest in the Carolinas, if I recall.
He's not some dude mouthing off on TV. He's a violent punk who wouldn't think twice of assassinating Bush if he thought he could get away with it.
But Monson's a different case. He's been arrested for vandalizing the state Capitol Building in Olympia, in addition to a domestic violence arrest in the Carolinas, if I recall.
He's not some dude mouthing off on TV. He's a violent punk who wouldn't think twice of assassinating Bush if he thought he could get away with it.
Posted by: jimg at January 07, 2011 04:17 AM (Ojzt3)
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The SS will be extra vigilant now that Peloski is not in line for Prez. Boma and Bidin' should never be in the same country together.
Posted by: Chris at January 07, 2011 07:02 AM (VHYtr)
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I have complete faith in Obama to conquer the UFC. He's the LightBringer! He healed the oceans, brought peace to the Middle East, save or created billions of jobs. Surely his majesty extends to every sport he tries.
If he won't get in the ring, he should at least be a coach on the next The Ultimate Fighter reality show. "Hit back twice as hard! Hit back twice as hard!" He could bring in Michelle Guns Obama as a guest coach.
If he won't get in the ring, he should at least be a coach on the next The Ultimate Fighter reality show. "Hit back twice as hard! Hit back twice as hard!" He could bring in Michelle Guns Obama as a guest coach.
Posted by: Dustydog at January 07, 2011 07:25 AM (j8aSQ)
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Michelle "guns" Obaama
"guns"
Is that what the kids today are calling "thunder thighs"? Back in my day we used to call'em "useless fat asses".
"guns"
Is that what the kids today are calling "thunder thighs"? Back in my day we used to call'em "useless fat asses".
Posted by: edward at January 07, 2011 08:59 AM (8M0Xj)
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Remember when the President of France asked "est-il faible"? (Is he feeble - meaning weak)? I think we have his answer.
Weaker than the president of FRANCE? America, you should be ashamed.
Weaker than the president of FRANCE? America, you should be ashamed.
Posted by: Ed at January 07, 2011 09:09 AM (TL/Jf)
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Several here have said "The USSS is obligated to investigate any and all possible threats to the president and their other principles."
That's nonsense. To determine is something is "possible" means to weight whether the threat offers a "reasonable" level of success and viability. Otherwise if someone said "I'm going to call down my fleet of sentient asteroids to land on Obama's head" do you *really* think the USSS is "obligated" to go speak to this person? If so, we have bigger problems than I ever imagined, as like much of society it would appear that initiative, independent thought, and reasoned analysis and given way to a CYA zero-tolerance mentality so prevalent elsewhere in our ossified bureaucracies.
That's nonsense. To determine is something is "possible" means to weight whether the threat offers a "reasonable" level of success and viability. Otherwise if someone said "I'm going to call down my fleet of sentient asteroids to land on Obama's head" do you *really* think the USSS is "obligated" to go speak to this person? If so, we have bigger problems than I ever imagined, as like much of society it would appear that initiative, independent thought, and reasoned analysis and given way to a CYA zero-tolerance mentality so prevalent elsewhere in our ossified bureaucracies.
Posted by: H Blix at January 07, 2011 09:32 AM (xLxLG)
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Just publish her name and email address. Let her know that actions have consequences. Also, the names (and how many) of any SS agents should be publicized--let people know how much money has been wasted on such a trivial matter. This was no credible threat, just a comrade informing on a private citizen to the party goons.
Posted by: DocRambo at January 07, 2011 11:59 AM (2cqrK)
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Geeez there was a whole movie made about assassinating President Bush - I wonder if the Secret Service went to everyone who worked on that film??? I'm sure that if they had, the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth would have been a NY Times headline.... BO and his ilk are some of the biggest pansies...
Posted by: AT at January 07, 2011 12:14 PM (LLrKR)
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"then Senator Jesse Helms made a comment in an interview to the effect that Billy Jeff should not be visiting some parts of North Carolina."
If such a statement could be construed to be a threat to anyone at all, then it could be construed as a threat to the president and should be taken as such.
"declared that he wanted to fight President Barack Obama for his next fight."
Fighters challenge others to fight. It's what they do. If challenging the president is a crime, then all the other challenges issued by fighters should be taken as such.
If such a statement could be construed to be a threat to anyone at all, then it could be construed as a threat to the president and should be taken as such.
"declared that he wanted to fight President Barack Obama for his next fight."
Fighters challenge others to fight. It's what they do. If challenging the president is a crime, then all the other challenges issued by fighters should be taken as such.
Posted by: willis at January 07, 2011 01:08 PM (jyN1i)
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"Geeez there was a whole movie made about assassinating President Bush - I wonder if the Secret Service went to everyone who worked on that film?"
I wondered about that, too, and looked up an interview with the director, Gabriel Range. In it, he says that he got a call from the Secret Service when filming a motorcade scene in Chicago. He never got a visit, and he wasn't asked to give them a script.
I wondered about that, too, and looked up an interview with the director, Gabriel Range. In it, he says that he got a call from the Secret Service when filming a motorcade scene in Chicago. He never got a visit, and he wasn't asked to give them a script.
Posted by: Wylee Coyote at January 07, 2011 03:47 PM (L42b2)
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Volkman did NOT threaten Obama in any way. He challenged Obama to VOLUNTARILY meet him in a wressling match, and said he didn't like him much. It may be disrepctful, but it is definitely NOT a threat. Any president should be subject to criticism and ridicule, even if it is very bad taste, as long a violent action against him is not advocated. This is a ham handed attempt to suppress dissent, and should be condemned. This is also akin to numerous previous dem attempts to portray any criticism of Obama as racist, even when the criticism makes no reference whatever to Obamas race. This is typical of most leftists, who loudly proclaim the virtues of dissent, unless the dissent is against THEM, when it must be suppressed. At its heart, leftism, while proclaiming tolerance, is quite intolerant and fascist.
The comparison to the Bush incident, with the assasinate Bush T shirt, is bogus, since advocating a violent assasination IS a threat, unlike advocating a voluntary wressling match that Obama can easily decline. Of course in the Assasinate Bush case you could still argue that it is not a SERIOUS violent threat, and could be meant in jest, but unlike the Volkman case it still is a violent threat.
The comparison to the Bush incident, with the assasinate Bush T shirt, is bogus, since advocating a violent assasination IS a threat, unlike advocating a voluntary wressling match that Obama can easily decline. Of course in the Assasinate Bush case you could still argue that it is not a SERIOUS violent threat, and could be meant in jest, but unlike the Volkman case it still is a violent threat.
Posted by: richard40 at January 07, 2011 05:58 PM (cQhQZ)
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I've actually been a mandated reporter for the Secret Service, and the fact is, if there's ANYTHING that can be construed as a threat, it needs to be investigated. I doubt Barry had anything to do with it.
Look, I think the man is a horrible President and want him out of office and back home in 2012, but it's important to blame him for things within his control to change, and not blame him for things he can't control or change.
Look, I think the man is a horrible President and want him out of office and back home in 2012, but it's important to blame him for things within his control to change, and not blame him for things he can't control or change.
Posted by: Occam's Tool at January 07, 2011 06:11 PM (OcQfO)
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