So Hot, We'll Freeze to Death
I had to go out a few minutes early this morning to use the global warming scraper™ on my car's windows before I could begin my morning commute.
It seems that some scientists are suggesting that instead of being an exception, that might one day become a regular part of my routine.That's just the teaser; may sure you really dig into the article to get a full taste of just how much climate change cultists have lied to you about the direction our climate is heading. The current, bitterly cold weather blanketing much of the northern hemisphere is a taste of what real science predicts for our future in the short term, and the long term as well. The last 10,000 years have been very good to us; the 90,000 before that sucked, as it will again when our present interglacial comes to an end. The longer your view is of history, the more we see just how lucky we are that the human species had such an extended warm period in which to develop, but that long view also shows us that we're due for a long, and nasty temperature drop. We're overdue for the next ice age:
The bitter winter afflicting much of the Northern Hemisphere is only the start of a global trend towards cooler weather that is likely to last for 20 or 30 years, say some of the world’s most eminent climate scientists. Their predictions – based on an analysis of natural cycles in water temperatures in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans – challenge some of the global warming orthodoxy’s most deeply cherished beliefs, such as the claim that the North Pole will be free of ice in summer by 2013.
Mankind is self-important, and arrogantly wants to believe that we can control the climate. Because of this we have wasted billions of dollars (and are poised to waste trillions more) trying to reverse a process in which we play a seemingly insignificant role. We need to be focusing our efforts on trying to determine how—when the real climate change occurs—we're going to deal with longer periods of intense cold. We can't change the climate, but we can learn to adapt to it as it changes, as long as we don't waste our time, energy, and effort trying to control nature itself. Update: I don't want to lose my funding! The scientist that was the bais for the Daily Mail article is challenging their representation of his work. Smart man. You don't bite the hand that feeds you all of that delicious grant money. He would probably come closer to agreeing with this Telegraph version of events, which will see him safely into retirement. Attempting to claim that the reality of cooling and the projection of cooling actually supports a long term case for warming is a contortion to make a Cirque du Soleil gymnast wince, but it is amusing to watch.
These data should frighten you. All of civilization developed during the last interglacial, and the data show that such interglacials are very brief. Our time looks about up. Data such as these are what led us to state, in the Preface, that the next ice age is about to hit us, any millennium now. It does not take a detailed theory to make this prediction. We don't necessarily know why the next ice age is imminent (at least on a geological timescale), but the pattern is unmistakable. The real reason to be frightened is that we really don't understand what causes the pattern. We don't know why the ice ages are broken by the short interglacials. We do know something – that the driving force is astronomical.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 11:26 AM
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Meanwhile, children are starving while people make up lies about global warming as a scam to steal billions from well-meaning, deceived people. But, of course, scam artists have never cared a thing about the real needs of human beings -they just want to lie, use scare tactics, and want their marks to "show them the money".
Great post. Thanks for your blog, Confed Yank.
Great post. Thanks for your blog, Confed Yank.
Posted by: laura at January 11, 2010 11:36 AM (JFvHi)
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Spot-on, CY
As I have said in the past, we should really wish that the AGW hypothesis was proven. If true, then climate engineering would be possible.
However, we do not know how to increase the greenhouse effect for the planet. So a true ice age will kill billions and cause vastly more problems than a trivial 2-4 C average temperature increase.
But Gore and Pachauri will still make their money off the AGW fraud...that is all that matters.
As I have said in the past, we should really wish that the AGW hypothesis was proven. If true, then climate engineering would be possible.
However, we do not know how to increase the greenhouse effect for the planet. So a true ice age will kill billions and cause vastly more problems than a trivial 2-4 C average temperature increase.
But Gore and Pachauri will still make their money off the AGW fraud...that is all that matters.
Posted by: iconoclast at January 11, 2010 12:09 PM (O8ebz)
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I knew the present AGW theory was a lie from the very beginning. Yes we are about to re-enter another ice age. Many will die. Unfortunately, everybody you have ever known is going to die, warm or cold. If we cannot limit our population, mother earth (nature) WILL. Human beings should be rare and beautiful flowers in the landscape rather than the plague they have become. They are magic and too much of a good thing corrupts the beauty. Those who survive may look fondly back at the profusion of glory that walked the earth. This is the Garden of Eden.
Posted by: Avery at January 11, 2010 12:42 PM (brIiu)
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Laura,
I am afraid you have it wrong. You see, I order to get rid of global warming our government is arranging to tax us to a greater extent and give the money to developing countries like China, those in Africa and so on. That should significantly impact the environment.
I am afraid you have it wrong. You see, I order to get rid of global warming our government is arranging to tax us to a greater extent and give the money to developing countries like China, those in Africa and so on. That should significantly impact the environment.
Posted by: David at January 11, 2010 01:46 PM (VpBDM)
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Funny .. how "these climate scientists didn't see this cooling coming.
Posted by: Neo at January 11, 2010 02:56 PM (tE8FB)
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This information is false and misleading. It does not match up with the scientifically settled computer models that predict, with certainty, the temperatures will only rise.
So let AlGore say it, so let it be done.
So let AlGore say it, so let it be done.
Posted by: SouthernRoots at January 11, 2010 03:48 PM (FJRFk)
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Laura said "Meanwhile, children are starving while people make up lies about global warming as a scam"
Laura, the chief irritation is the attempt by the left to blame global warming on human contribution with absolutely no proof. That irritation turns into anger when people realize the Earth has had many ice ages and global warming periods in its long history, and the fact that the blind followers of the left are too intellectually lazy to research the subject.
Another point you liberals seem not to grasp is that global warming could provide more food production and help those starving children you're so concerned about.
Laura, the chief irritation is the attempt by the left to blame global warming on human contribution with absolutely no proof. That irritation turns into anger when people realize the Earth has had many ice ages and global warming periods in its long history, and the fact that the blind followers of the left are too intellectually lazy to research the subject.
Another point you liberals seem not to grasp is that global warming could provide more food production and help those starving children you're so concerned about.
Posted by: Rick at January 11, 2010 04:58 PM (GmIEI)
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I know you will find this hard to believe but I read this morning that this was excatly what the AGW data was predicting and that they are correct. They are saying that the data predicted this cooling and therefore their preditcion of warming in the future is correct also. These people are almost as arrogant as our leader.
Posted by: inspectorudy at January 11, 2010 06:00 PM (Vo1wX)
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I was wondering one day recently as I was freezing my behind off - wouldn't it be terribly IRONIC that all these years of cuting back "greenhouse gasses" and the wacko libs demanding we reduce carbon dioxide have the opposit effect - making the earth COLDER!!!!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by: slimedog at January 11, 2010 09:30 PM (Z21cb)
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iconoclast;
Actually it's easier to do geo-engineering to prevent Ice Ages than to cool the planet. All you need are big mirrors in orbit to increase overall insolation. Those are relatively cheap to build and deploy. There are a number of other schemes, simply look back to the 70s and 80s for the last Ice Age scare.
Actually it's easier to do geo-engineering to prevent Ice Ages than to cool the planet. All you need are big mirrors in orbit to increase overall insolation. Those are relatively cheap to build and deploy. There are a number of other schemes, simply look back to the 70s and 80s for the last Ice Age scare.
Posted by: Annoying Old Guy at January 11, 2010 10:17 PM (yQAOr)
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Posted by slimedog at January 11, 2010 09:30 PM
Fallen Angel by Jerry Pournelle. A fun read and some pretty decent science as well.
Fallen Angel by Jerry Pournelle. A fun read and some pretty decent science as well.
Posted by: iconoclast at January 11, 2010 11:19 PM (O8ebz)
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What is wrong with you people?
You spend years mocking environmentalists for believing that the climate is changing and the earth is warming up, because you believe the science is shoddy and most of it is simply hysteria.
And now it's all "we're gonna freeze to death" because of an article in the Daily Mail. But as you can see here
http://climateprogress.org/2010/01/11/foxnews-wattsupwiththat-climatedepot-daily-mail-article-on-global-cooling-mojib-latif/
That article is based on misquoting a number of scientists and organizations including Dr. Mojib Latif and the NSIDC.
Wise up. Jesus.
You spend years mocking environmentalists for believing that the climate is changing and the earth is warming up, because you believe the science is shoddy and most of it is simply hysteria.
And now it's all "we're gonna freeze to death" because of an article in the Daily Mail. But as you can see here
http://climateprogress.org/2010/01/11/foxnews-wattsupwiththat-climatedepot-daily-mail-article-on-global-cooling-mojib-latif/
That article is based on misquoting a number of scientists and organizations including Dr. Mojib Latif and the NSIDC.
Wise up. Jesus.
Posted by: Pockmark Notorious at January 12, 2010 08:40 AM (ZGMeu)
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POCKMARK - I have no idea what you are talking about. Speaking for myself, I do not believe WE are freezing or warming the earth. Key word there is WE! WE can't do squat to control the earth - the WE is us human beings. That realllly big ball of hydrogen in the sky, along with that very hot molten steel in the center of the earth does the job - along with a couple of other things we can't control.
Posted by: slimedog at January 12, 2010 08:11 PM (Z21cb)
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