Confirmed: Left Wing Blogger Created Obama's (Fake) Birth Certificate
So really, who is stoking the so-called "birther" movement?
Democratic officials and left wing bloggers like to pretend that the issue is a creation of Republicans, even though the claim that Obama was not born in the United States can be definitively traced back to Hillary Clinton-supporting Democratic blogs. Now, a left wing blogger has come forth to claim responsibility for creating the birth certificate published on WorldNetDaily that created such buzz early in the week, even though it was decried as a fake almost immediately.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 04:07 PM
Comments
Posted by: Lipiwitz at August 06, 2009 04:59 PM (OX5qU)
Posted by: sitnam at August 06, 2009 05:02 PM (GvuUF)
All we want is to see the real one, plus many other things he's still hiding like his law school grades, papers, etc. etc.
Punkers have merely succeeded in proving that they're liars which we already know.
Your big accomplishment is to prove that forgeries are possible, and that YOU are the ones willing. And you are proud of your ability to lie. Amazing.
Posted by: Bill Smith at August 06, 2009 05:50 PM (cKwIn)
Now Libs get caught lying, and they gloat about their lack of integrity. They got caught and are proud.
I love it. That's not sarcasm. I actually do love this. I can now honestly report that Liberals are birthers.
Posted by: brando at August 06, 2009 05:55 PM (IPGju)
What was it that Ann Coulter said, you're all a bunch of "cranks"?
Posted by: Lipiwitz at August 06, 2009 06:12 PM (OX5qU)
Lipiwitz, CY isn't a 9/11 truther, or a Birth Truther, or a Waco Truther, or a Moon Truther, or a WMD Truther. You might want to watch the slander. That moonbat stuff isn't what he's about.
I'm also none of those things, and you slandered me when you said 'all'. I'll let you come clean (with me at least), if you ask nicely. Don't end up like Dude and the Libs.
Don't claim I wasn't fair or trying to help you.
Posted by: brando at August 06, 2009 07:17 PM (LjEkE)
Posted by: Steve M. at August 06, 2009 07:22 PM (Rywie)
Posted by: Dude at August 06, 2009 07:52 PM (byA+E)
Posted by: Lipiwitz at August 06, 2009 08:53 PM (OX5qU)
Most conservative blogs don't allow dissenting views ? What sort of nonsense are you smoking ?
I see dissenting views on Malkin, Powerline, Red State, TownHall to name a few ... if you want to get banned just try and get harsh with LGF or Daily Kos ...
jeff carlson
www.harlemghost.blogspot.com
Posted by: Jeff Carlson at August 06, 2009 09:10 PM (hYYqD)
wow dude get a grip & get a life.
really...you take criticism of yout Oba-messiah way too seriously.
To feed your curiosity: NO, I still don't consider it a fake and it still doens't change anything in my opinion.
Your Oba-messiah is a commie fraud and I do not recognize him as POTUS. Especially since his KGB is hiring citizen cops to keep a database on those who disagree with him.
Also, your Oba-messiah poll numbers keep descending. Try these on for size:
"After 6 Months, More View Obama's Presidency as a 'Failure' Than Bush's"
http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2009/08/06/after-6-months-more-view-obamas-presidency-as-a-failure-than-bushs/
"August 6, 2009 - Obama's Approval Drops To 50 Percent, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Half Say President Acted 'Stupidly' In Race Dispute"
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1361
"cheers" & spin on that info a while.
I can see I am on your mind alot lips-witch by your blirting out my name at the least sign of birther controversy.
i really got on your skin & I am pleased.
Oh and just remember...as YOUR SAVIOR, the Oba-messiah, crashes & burns, YOU VOTED FOR HIM...and so you will have to ask yourself:
Will you give over to His database those who are against His policies?
Will you become a KGB agent for the ?
Some real NICE life choices you have there.
Posted by: lu-ee at August 06, 2009 09:16 PM (4BPHJ)
Posted by: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III at August 06, 2009 09:31 PM (nuJg4)
I hope it happens before he and the Dems totally ruins this country.
I saw this crap coming a few years ago and moved to the country. We live on a Farm to Market road, in a lot of trees and Texas jungle (totally invisible from the road). We are in for some bad years ahead, and I am almost ready.
God keep us all.
Posted by: Marc at August 06, 2009 10:11 PM (Zoziv)
MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?
OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.
MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?
OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.
MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.
OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.
MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.
OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at August 06, 2009 10:20 PM (WjpSC)
Please note Brando's MO in his posts; I imagine that you already have. This is typical of him. I've read and re-read your posts and his in this thread.
You'll notice that he attributes things to you that you didn't say, or even imply. Then, he will feign to be offended and accuse you of slander (or some other trumped up charge) and offer you an opportunity to apologize to him for things that you didn't say! Oh, he also points out that he's giving you this opportunity to "come clean" out of a sense of fairness on his part.
He accuses you of slandering CY and himself because you used the word "all" when referring to the Birthers. He misconstrues that to accuse you of referring to all people who visit this forum, even if they're not a Birther.
Anyone who has spent even a little bit of time here and who actually reads the posts would understand very well that CY is not a Birther, as you and I well know. Furthermore, most reasonable people would easily understand that you did not accuse him of being a Birther. Nor, did you accuse anyone of being a Birther. You simply quoted or paraphrased a quote by Ann What's Her Name where SHE implied that all the Birthers are a bunch of cranks.
I forgive him for his false accusations. It's possible that he can't help it.
Posted by: Dude at August 06, 2009 11:41 PM (byA+E)
Posted by: JosephineSouthern at August 06, 2009 11:49 PM (AKl3/)
Like Lipiwitz, I, too, wondered if you still considered the BC in question to be a real government document. I figured that you did. Thanks for confirming.
I suppose if one is grasping for straws, as you are, the link that you provided to the recent poll concerning the 6 month approval rating would be encouraging to folks who dislike our President.
I don't know of a single person who views President Obama as their Savior. I certainly don't and none of my friends who voted for him consider him to be that. We simply think of him as the President of the United States who is attempting to initiate a different direction for our nation. We don't consider him to be perfect, either. Like all of us, he has his faults.
The Savior moniker is something cooked up by angry people and then picked up by people who can't think for themselves. It's fine to disagree with him. That's your right. Nevertheless it's silly and untrue to characterize his supporters as people who consider him him to be the Messiah or the Savior. From my point of view, it's blasphemy.
Again, I hope that you're well. Take care.
Posted by: Dude at August 07, 2009 12:21 AM (byA+E)
People like you act like they've just awakened from a nap to walk in on a football game and start supposing what happened to make the score.
Go back to sleep Dude.
Posted by: torabora at August 07, 2009 12:33 AM (dgvJN)
I implore those on the right who really care about the Constitution to know that this is a losing argument but that WE can take back that House and depose Pelosi and SNATCH that gavel out of that bitches hand and end the Presidency of the tool in chief!
Posted by: Jaded at August 07, 2009 12:59 AM (1I7uq)
"Le what? Legit!" -- Johnny Dangerously (awesome movie)
Posted by: Lipiwitz at August 07, 2009 01:03 AM (bhNGz)
The blame will fall on those responsible, organized angry anarchist mobs of people who aren't interested in a debate at all. They're only interested in shouting down people who do want a discussion.
Political dissent is one thing. That's a good thing. The mobs are more about political descent. They are the ones who will be going down the tubes. Let 'em eat fish heads.
Posted by: Dude at August 07, 2009 01:12 AM (byA+E)
Posted by: Lipiwitz at August 07, 2009 01:50 AM (bhNGz)
He said "all". No implication. My MO is to be a good person. It's not my fault it stays relevant. I'm not angry at you. I'm just using you as a good example of wrongness, and contrasting that with myself. You make it real easy for me to stay on my high horse. I gave you your chance, but you lost, so just drop it. You're suspect.
I will address one other point that you got wrong. I've personally met Liberals who literally believe that Obama is God incarnate. Not as a metaphor. Not as hyperbole. Just because you pretend that those people don't exist, doesn't make it so. They exist. In large numbers, they claim. It's the same Liberal who told me about her state mandated abortion ideas, that you were so fond of. Creepifying. Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
I've also had someone tell me that they think of Al Gore as Jesus. Just weird.
Now on to Lipiwitz.
I think I'm being more than fair. You know that CY's not a Birther, and yet you gloat against his position. You know I'm not a Birther, and yet you flatly state that all the people here are cranks for being against the wacky Truther garbage d'jour. How did CY get punked? He was on top of it the whole time.
Then Dude promises on your behalf. (read this part carefully) "Nor, did you accuse anyone of being a Birther."
Really? You didn't call anyone a birther? Really? Not even the people who've been posting here who are actually Birthers?
You go from calling everyone a birther, all the way to the other end of the spectrum, of (Dude says) calling nobody a birther.
So which is it? It can be either, neither, but not both. (Psst. The answer's neither.)
I'm totally for healthy debate. The bare minimum of debate is the ability to tell (and hear) the truth. What I'm saying is that you might want to use more qualifying words. Well, come clean first, then do better. I'm actually trying to reach out and help you.
I don't know if a time limit would help. A day or so, I suppose.
Posted by: brando at August 07, 2009 02:08 AM (LjEkE)
Brando, I believe the term I used was "all birthers are a bunch of cranks" in quoting Ann Coulter who said "all birthers are a bunch of cranks". I don't think I need too much help there. I read my post. I didn't say everyone is a birther but I did use the term "all birthers" as in referring strictly to the birthers and not generalizing everybody as a birther and subsequently, everyone is a crank by Ann Coulter's standards. Does that make sense?
YOU on the other hand said this: "I can now honestly report that Liberals are birthers". O'rly? Can you name one liberal who is a birther? One liberal who believes in this birth certificate nonsense? Can you name one liberal who has made the statement that Obama is not a US citizen? Can you name one liberal who doesn't accept the document with the state seal that is legally acceptable as proof of citizenship by the US State Department? After all, you are somebody who doesn't appreciate slander. Personally I believe that even if he was born in Kenya, liberals still would've voted for him. Couldn't possibly do worse than the last president. AWWWW...TOO SOON?
Posted by: Lipiwitz at August 07, 2009 03:02 AM (bhNGz)
"Make that a Democrat for 56 years until this last election when the bottom of the Democrat barrel rose to the top and reared it's ugly, sexist, demented and as you exhibited yourself, deceptive head. Will never ever vote for a Democrat again as long as I live. The party of Scoop Jackson is dead! Your gloating for what you did is an example of how low the party's values have sunk. Only stupid people find your exploit mentionable. Since your the one tooting your horn that makes you stupid too. But hey, look on the bright side, stupid people don't know they are stupid. Guess you can live with yourself and rationalize your behavior for a long time to come."
Posted by: Dave at August 07, 2009 04:22 AM (nWGqk)
this isnt over until Your Savior, the Oba-messiah, is sent off his throne.
and yes Dude, I do think you practice blasphemy. so there, what of it? You are a pathetically sad case to stand by what will be the most horrific "presidency" in this great countries history.
I asked both of you if you would be part of the the Oba-messiah's citizen snitch program, His KGB database of dissenters, and i also posted current polls that show this imposture is in free-fall, and you both shrug your shoulders & ignore.
YOU BOTH DONT CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO EXERCISE THEIR 1ST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, AND NOW HAVE TO FEAR THEIR GOVT WILL "RETALIATE" AGAINST THEM & THAT UNIONS WHO BACK THE FRAUD WILL BEAT THEM UP. ISNT IT AMAZING THAT A WORD LIKE "DISSIDENT," A WORD USUALLY USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH COMMUNISM & THE USSR, IS NOW GOING TO BE PART OF THE USA VOCABULARY IN REGARDS TO AMERICANS WHO EXERCISE THEIR 1ST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AGAINST THIS COMMIE USURPER.
SIMPLY ASTONISHING.
hence your cult-like adoration of YOUR messianic presidential candidate, the commie, the moron's moron, THE OBA-MESSIAH.
since its your shoe, wear it, eat it & crap it.
want some hot sauce for that stinker?
how does it feel to take the greatest nation on earth & flush it down the toilet of communism?
cheers suckers.
yes, really.
Posted by: lu-ee at August 07, 2009 05:55 AM (4BPHJ)
Posted by: Lipiwitz at August 07, 2009 06:00 AM (bhNGz)
...again I am on your mind. I just luv it when you feel the need to call my name.
...and again, YOU seem like you are a prime candidate for a Oba-messiah citizen KGB snitch.
Nice.
WILL YOU OR WONT YOU SNITCH ON FELLOW USA CITIZENS WHO EXERCISE THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS & SPEAK OUT AGAINST YOUR FRAUDULENT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & AGAINST HIS COMMIE POLICIES?
i see you are a coward as well as a commie and ignored this question twice.
...your typical of a commie cult-follower zombie.
...but you will not get away with it that easy.
Oh and if this supposed "revolution" supposedly "happened" why post against me at all, or even have me on your mind?
why are you so "worried" about WHAT I HAVE TO SAY? hmmm...
hey lips-witch? all I hear are the crickets in that vacant cavern of your's.
you know, the cavern thats supposed to contain a brain? dont you? huh?
why so concerned?
...are you a goverment snitch or are you not?
..come-on fiddo lips-witch, your Master, the Oba-messiah, is calling you to do his will.
"..here fiddo...come and fetch it..."
Posted by: lu-ee at August 07, 2009 08:30 AM (oogdQ)
I find it astonishing that that anyone with 10th grade reading skills (as you obviously possess, as evidenced by your ability to write well, albeit untruthfully) would conclude from our posts that either I, myself, or Lipiwitz has accused CY of a being a birther.
Perhaps a course in reading comprehension skills would help you to be able to compose more intelligent and truthful responses in debates.
Then again, perhaps not. I think that you know exactly what you're doing. Fortunately, most people on both sides of an issue are able to distinguish fact from fiction in regards to what someone else has written by simply "reading" the words. You're a "case study", Brando.
Posted by: Dude at August 07, 2009 09:35 AM (byA+E)
Oh and Lippy...
It looks even more patriotic Democrats want to know "what is he hiding?"
hahaha
http://digg.com/politics/Bill_would_force_Obama_to_reveal_birth_documents
in addition to the possible refiling of the liberal forgery document.
this is getting too easy.
...the more you and your commie henchmen go after Dr. Taitz, especially be calling her "mentally unstable" or "crazy," the more folks wonder, "why put the burden of proof on her" and "attack her character?"
I notice many of those who are scared of what could happen to the Oba--messiah are using the same tactics as 20th century communist & totalitarian govts used against dissidents in their countries who spoke out against their tyrannical regimes: they attacked the dissidents' mental stability. They tried to question if the dissidents were sane, you know, by releasing to the state-run media statements like, "they are crazy and dont know what they are talking about."
Well, Dr. Taitz is the FIRE to the STRAWMEN who are protecting the hidden past of this commie fraud known as THE ONE. AND THEY ARE ALL C-O-W-A-R-D-S WHO HAVE NO COUNTER-ARGUMENT TO HER ACCUSATION EXCEPT TO CALL HER "CRAZY."
ITS THE FRAUD, THE OBA-MESSIAH, WHO IS ACTING CRAZY BY NOT RELEASING BIRTH & CITIZENSHIP DOCUMENTS THAT HE & HIS LIBERAL COMMIES BACKERS WANTED MCCAIN TO RELEASE IN 08(...and McCain, in fact, COMPLIED!).
"cheers" lips-witch. Your supposed "revolution" is a boat filling up with the waters of its corruption, anarchy, sins and injustices. The ones that created it in the first place.
The Spirit of '76 is far from done & dusted lips-witch, my commie friend.
...i think it will be you & your commie followers who will need a bridge to Havana once YOUR commie liberal crime is exposed for what it really is covering up: tyranny, plain & simple, in black & white.
Posted by: lu-ee at August 07, 2009 09:38 AM (oogdQ)
In answer to your question, no, I wouldn't report anyone for exercising their First Amendment right to disagree with our politcal leaders, not even in your alternate, fictional version of reality.
In your case, I must confess, I would be tempted to report YOU to the proper local authorities who may be able to offer help to you for your psychiatric condition. To clarify, I would only do that if your delusions began to exhibit threats of personal bodily harm to others. As long as you're spouting your harmless nonsense, no, I wouldn't report you to anyone.
In fact, there would be no need to "turn you in". With every post that you make you make mental condition perfectly clear to anyone who reads them, right here on a public forum on the good 'ol world wide web!
Posted by: Dude at August 07, 2009 09:51 AM (byA+E)
Lipiwitz, that's not what you said the first time. Are you calibrating your words better? Couching it in different terms or something? One Liberal is all you need in order to repent?
Um, the Liberal who faked the birth document. The guy we're talking about.
And the hoards, who are thrilled about how that represents their group. Did you even read it that thread, it's pretty emblamatic? Liberals also say that 96% of Americans are Liberal (and Libs aren't dumb). If you find their/your numbers wrong, then take it up with them/yourself.
"Al Gore isn't Jesus? lol" - I'm not sure where you're going with that, but my position is that Al Gore is not Jesus. I've been told that I'm all alone in my belief, but there it is.
I think what you're doing is projection. Liberals are Birthers, but understand that it's insane and sneer-worthy, so they project it onto others. Not all Birthers are Liberals, but all Liberals are Birthers.
Sort of how Liberals are for the draft. I've met many Libs who are very vocal for conscription, yet know that it's slavery, and deep down know that it's wrong. When pressed they say that they're for the Draft to show how against it they are. You guys have weird inside out logic. It's not wrong to quote em.
Now you're claiming that these hundreds of millions of Liberals are merely pretending to be Birthers to demonstrate that they really aren't Birthers? Maybe be carefull what you pretend to be, because at the end of the day, you are what you say and do.
Posted by: brando at August 07, 2009 09:55 AM (IPGju)
Now, there's a real piece of cake for you to chew on. I had to read that several times to be sure that my glasses were clean.
Posted by: Dude at August 07, 2009 11:40 AM (byA+E)
the snitch program has made news from coast to coast, thru-out the net.
but I see you have selective memory. or is it "selective eyesight"?
And you say I am "crazy" ?
You see I dont think you are crazy. I think you are dangerous.
I also see you are willing to become a spy.
cheers & so sad for you and enjoy your new job as a govt pundit, judging who is fit, and not fit, to practice free speech.
remember: "the revolution eats its children" and you are such a naive, albeit dangerous, person.
kinda like a child in a way.
Posted by: lu-ee at August 07, 2009 02:08 PM (oogdQ)
PLAIN & SIMPLE SOLUTION TO ME.
CHEERS
Posted by: lu-ee at August 07, 2009 02:54 PM (oogdQ)
Posted by: Jaded at August 07, 2009 05:08 PM (1I7uq)
See the unemployment numbers today? Went down a little. Looks like the clean up of your mess is starting to work. I like my 401k and pension balances getting back to the pre-Republicans drove it all into a ditch levels. Hard for Americans to forget that.
Posted by: Lipiwitz at August 08, 2009 12:33 AM (bhNGz)
The sad thing and it is truly sad, is there is not one single elected Republican in charge of the party right now. Not one! The party had been hijacked by Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Michelle Malkin and their acolytes and they are destroying the party like a stage 4 cancer.
Posted by: Lipiwitz at August 08, 2009 12:39 AM (bhNGz)
I ALSO FORWARDED YOUR WONDERFUL WORK TO THE FBI !!!
Posted by: Mike Fuller at August 08, 2009 02:18 AM (Q1LO4)
OBAMA IS IMPLODING MORE AND MORE EVERY SINGLE DAY !
i LOVE IT. WE DON'T NEED TO TRY AND GET HIM, JUST SIT BACK AND WATCH. HE'S DOING IT HIMSELF !
lol
Posted by: Mike Fuller at August 08, 2009 02:21 AM (Q1LO4)
So Mr. Fuller, how did that whole "sit back and watch" thing go for ya? lol
Posted by: Lipiwitz at August 08, 2009 03:36 AM (bhNGz)
Posted by: twolaneflashf at August 08, 2009 02:49 PM (svkhS)
Posted by: Trisha at August 08, 2009 03:09 PM (GbOES)
Repeating that doesn't make it any more true than it was the last time. The legal standard of documentary proof has been met and exceeded. that's just a fact. Another fact is that Orly Taitz and Friends have done an outstanding job of making Obama critics look like a bunch of lunatics.
Don't be a part of the problem, be part of the solution.
Posted by: Pablo at August 09, 2009 11:07 AM (yTndK)
That's awfully funny coming from an O-bot.
Posted by: Pablo at August 09, 2009 11:08 AM (yTndK)
Regardless of where he was born, he is not eligible because of dual citizenships. The multiple birth certificates could coincide with other accusations too numberous to deal with here; hopefully the eligibility will be cleared without getting into intentions of his mother. Perhaps having a child of a nation gave rights and privilege to the parents. She and her husband met as students in a class on Russia. Frank Marshall Davis was at least friends of the family, at most, some say B. Obama's father or mentor in his book.
The stated goal of Communism is peace; but their ways produce deception, oppression and death. There is a better way to achieve peace and redistribute the wealth that will not anger or take from the people. It is in the word of God and is the only way to escape our destruction at our own hands with pollution and war or at the hands of a politician using psychopolitics. You will see why Barack Obama is pressing for the health reform bill.
Google Psychopolitics, Testimony of Kenneth Goff: Here we were trained in all phases of warfare, both psychological and physical, for the destruction of the Capitalistic society and Christian civilization. In one portion of our studies we went thoroughly into the matter of psychopolitics. This was the art of capturing the minds of a nation through brainwashing and fake mental health -- the subjecting of whole nations of people to the rule of the Kremlin by capturing their minds. .. . (Drugs were to be used to affect mass population problems.) Also see: (link not allowed here) Google: "The Saviet Art of Brain Washing" for Kenneth Goff's testimony and Editorial Note:
An Address By Lavrent Pavlovich Beria
(A famous address)
Bill Maher dialogue: “Birthers Must Be Stopped." Let the president stop them by releasing his school, health, passport and original Hawaii birth records.. Ridicule is a Communist tactic “when the sane are made to appear insane and the insane act as the world’s psychiatrists…” a quote from Mind-Washing in America by one of the leading American authorities on all aspects of the Communist conspiracy, former Senator Jack Tenney. He speaks of “the efforts of a small .. fraction of society to brainwash the overwhelming majority of its citizens…” Barack Obama is showing himself in his actions. Truth and justice win over lies and deception.
http://rightsoup.com/right-sightings-20/
Link: Video: Obama’s Communist Influences: Youtube
I sent an email to President Obama & US Attorney in DC, CD Phillips on 7-30-09. The president is a 15 year citizen of Indonesia and should not be making decisions for America.
Subject: Authority to investigate Barack Obama
& Quo Warranto in Donofrio
Same authority to investigate terrorists in America
114 Char. Twitter:
Sharing “Questions E-mailed to President Obama & US Attorney DC, CD Phillips 7-30-09” http://www.divine-way.com
(Quo Warranto-Wikipedia: Quo warranto today
In the United States today, quo warranto usually arises in a civil case as a plaintiff's claim (and thus a "cause of action" instead of a writ) that some governmental or corporate official was not validly elected to that office or is wrongfully exercising powers beyond (or ultra vires) those authorized by statute or by the corporation's charter.)
. There is more than enough information, even at http://obama-birth-cert-forged-sss-impeach.blogspot.com and http://www.divine-way.com/forgery_evidences_sss_reg_colb_birth_cert_for_obama_impeachment.html
to get access to his full birth certificate, college and passport records.
While we still have freedom, be sure to see all sides of the argument before being used against those seeking only to see records that should not be hidden.
Marie Devine
http://www.divine-way.com
Posted by: Marie Devine at August 09, 2009 11:41 AM (lo9FM)
Could you please share with us a link to any SCOTUS ruling that supports your statement: "Regardless of where he was born, he is not eligible because of dual citizenships."
To the best of my knowledge, though I may be mistaken, this particular issue of dual citizenship, even if Obama IS a dual citizen of the US and some other country, has never been addressed in any ruling by the SCOTUS. It most certainly isn't clear in the Constitution that your statement is, in fact, true.
I do wish that the Framers had been more precise in their wording of the Constitution so that the phrase "natural born citizen" would be perfectly clear to anyone who reads the Constitution. Unfortunately, they didn't do that. Thus, it has been left up to our Federal Court system to define the phrase.
As someone else has previously posted, the dual citizenship issue for the presidency is pretty much uncharted territory in our nation's history.
One can be both a natural born citizen and hold a dual citizenship status, as the SCOTUS has clearly ruled. They have yet to address that status as a condition of the presidency.
"Ridicule is a Communist tactic “when the sane are made to appear insane and the insane act as the world’s psychiatrists…”
While this statement is true of Communism, it's also true of most any political ideology, including but not limited to, Capitalism, Democracy, Socialism, etc. etc. That's just the way it IS and that's why it's so very important to have an informed electorate. It's our responsibility, the electorate, to make sure that we are informed.
Posted by: Dude at August 09, 2009 01:04 PM (byA+E)
Posted by: Neo at August 09, 2009 07:59 PM (5d1ix)
Posted by: Dude at August 10, 2009 04:51 PM (byA+E)
The real thing you should (have been) be up in arms about is the way in which Bush beat Gore. Where were you all when those shenanigans were going on? That was the real tradgedy. It's going to take generations to undo those eight years. Why aren't you guys investigating the fabricated documents which led us into a horrific wasteful war that cost so many lives and so much good will and so much money? WMDs? Come on - they never found any NOT EVEN ONE. You would think that if they could have found EVEN ONE it would have legitimized the whole thing. But they couldn't. So we go to war in Iraq for no reason, will be paying the price for generations, and here you guys are- I don't even know what to call this misguided effort.
Enjoy yourselves- I suppose at least it keeps you from doing other worse things.
Posted by: Dan at August 12, 2009 03:40 PM (ch34h)
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