Orly Taitz Has Lost Her Mind... and Her Remaining Credibility
Anyone as obsessed as anti-Obama lawyer Orly Taitz is tough to view as anything as a hardcore partisan, even thought the softest lens.
Now Taitz, who foisted upon us the most recent faked Obama birth certificate, is trying to play the victim:As noted by Salon, nobody debated when Kenya became independent; what we disputed—and disputed here—was the absolute fact that the nation was the Dominion of Kenya when the document claims to have been was produced, and the document claims it was the Republic of Kenya, which it did not become until ten months later. As for Bomford... see what the man has to say for himself. Hardly created to debunk Taitz, the middle-aged Australian who's birth certificate was copied to create the forgery is quite amused by the attention. There are 27 million Americans on anti-depressants. And at least one of those needs her dosage adjusted.
1. Kenya became an independant country in 1963, not 1964. The seal of Kenya was correct. 2. More then one person had certified copies of this document. 3. the document was not issued at birth, but rather was a certified copy obatained [sic] in1964, when Kenya became independent 4. The documents from that time would not show Zanzibar, but rather Kenya 5. Bomford report was created to try to discredit my efforts 6.lastly, I am not supposed to waste my time and money on this issue, Obama us the one who is supposed to provide evidence of legitimacy 7. Kenyan BC provides more info than the piece of garbage Obama posted on the n et [sic], which doesn't have the name of the hospital, name of the doctor or signatures. 8. Chioumi Fukino and Obama and all their Nazi Brown Shirts in the main stream media need to give it a rest and provide an original hospital BC and the corresponding big thick hospital Birthing file from the Kapiolani hospital. If they don't have such a file, all of them need to resign immediately or they will be prosecuted for massive fraud and treason to this Nation.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 05:10 PM
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Not a hard-core partisan, but a delusional crank.
The mirror image of, say, Cynthia McKinney, who has deserted the Democrats and gone rogue.
In that mindspace, the goal is the Truth, which is some Big Secret, and the enemies are everywhere, not on one side or the other.
The mirror image of, say, Cynthia McKinney, who has deserted the Democrats and gone rogue.
In that mindspace, the goal is the Truth, which is some Big Secret, and the enemies are everywhere, not on one side or the other.
Posted by: Rich Rostrom at August 04, 2009 07:48 PM (WQAV6)
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Obama – The Manufactured President
Obama has gone to great lengths to sequester most of his past records. That, in addition to falsehoods in his books indicate Obama is a phony, a manufactured person. The mainstream media has gone out of its way to obscure and lay a blanket over Obama’s past. Yet, we know even the most intimate details of Sarah Palin. Does anyone else see anything odd here?
Obama is a manufactured president. Manufactured by the left, sold to the press and adopted by the Democrat party. Obama has lied about who he was and continues to lie about who he is. He states blatant lies about his legislation. One only has to listen to what he says about the current Health Care Bill to realize that.
More and more American people are seeing they have been sold a bill of false goods. There are many things people should know about who this Hope ‘n Change figurine is besides, with certainty, where he was born. Had the Media been doing its job, we would have had an actual informed and open election in 2008.
Obama has gone to great lengths to sequester most of his past records. That, in addition to falsehoods in his books indicate Obama is a phony, a manufactured person. The mainstream media has gone out of its way to obscure and lay a blanket over Obama’s past. Yet, we know even the most intimate details of Sarah Palin. Does anyone else see anything odd here?
Obama is a manufactured president. Manufactured by the left, sold to the press and adopted by the Democrat party. Obama has lied about who he was and continues to lie about who he is. He states blatant lies about his legislation. One only has to listen to what he says about the current Health Care Bill to realize that.
More and more American people are seeing they have been sold a bill of false goods. There are many things people should know about who this Hope ‘n Change figurine is besides, with certainty, where he was born. Had the Media been doing its job, we would have had an actual informed and open election in 2008.
Posted by: zeezil at August 04, 2009 08:01 PM (VRY/o)
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...ya know Confederate Yankee you are appalling. You hit her like you should be hitting liberals.
Can you please show me one piece of government paper with the designation "Dominion of Kenya" even on it? The movement for a republic of Kenya started in 1957.
Do you honestly believe that Obama has not been acting very strange by not allowing all of the personal documents, from his long form live birth certificate to his kindergarten and college registration paperwork, to be reviewed by the press & the public?
...you are really playing the liberal shill in all of this.
...what this woman has done has not hurt the conservative cause one iota.
The liberals & the Oba-messiah are free-falling right now.
This woman's well-meaning attack simply is one attack in many against this fraudulent and communistic "presidency."
...even Huffington Post op-ed posters are saying "what is there to hide" and for this supposed "administration" to please post ALL the FACTUAL intel the Oba-messiah has.
...so why play the heavy against birthers?
The birthers are 1000x more sincere than any truthers, who even doubted when Bin Laden himself said he carried out the 9/11 attacks.
It is really sad that you do not question what the Oba-messiah is hiding, especially when the Oba-messiah does not release the same kind of info that McCain was pressured & required to release when HE RAN FOR PRESIDENT.
WHERE WERE YOU IN THAT BATTLE?
Please, I hope conservatives are not offended. I will support the Confederate Yankee and all those who are against this lawyer & the birthers. WE ARE UNITED IN OUR OPPOSITION AGAINST THE Oba-messiah.
I do not see this as a need to wipe out other conservatives who disagree with ME. Which is A SIMILAR the tactic of the communists & liberals, in order to gain THEIR UNITED objective, of electing & protecting the Oba-messiah. The "night of the long-knives" does not need to EVER happen. Use Reagan as an example.
I am taking you to task, Confederate Yankee, just like you are questioning not just the integrity but sanity of this conservative lawyer. I hate & despise it when any conservative & independent implies or actually states she or the birthers are crazy.
From the liberal side of the fence, YOU, and all of the other conservative & independent pundits & bloggers, WILL ALWAYS LOOK CRAZY.
If you would simply point your fire AGAINST THOSE WHO THINK ALL CONSERVATIVES & OTHERS WHO DISAGREE WITH THE OBA-MESSIAH, ARE RADICAL, and if you would stop playing the heavy, MAYBE you would report on why this fraudulent "administration" refuses to release any detailed & complete citizenship data, educational and health information, which McCain released in totum.
cheers & good luck with your witch hunt.
I am sure the "other side" is cheering for you.
Can you please show me one piece of government paper with the designation "Dominion of Kenya" even on it? The movement for a republic of Kenya started in 1957.
Do you honestly believe that Obama has not been acting very strange by not allowing all of the personal documents, from his long form live birth certificate to his kindergarten and college registration paperwork, to be reviewed by the press & the public?
...you are really playing the liberal shill in all of this.
...what this woman has done has not hurt the conservative cause one iota.
The liberals & the Oba-messiah are free-falling right now.
This woman's well-meaning attack simply is one attack in many against this fraudulent and communistic "presidency."
...even Huffington Post op-ed posters are saying "what is there to hide" and for this supposed "administration" to please post ALL the FACTUAL intel the Oba-messiah has.
...so why play the heavy against birthers?
The birthers are 1000x more sincere than any truthers, who even doubted when Bin Laden himself said he carried out the 9/11 attacks.
It is really sad that you do not question what the Oba-messiah is hiding, especially when the Oba-messiah does not release the same kind of info that McCain was pressured & required to release when HE RAN FOR PRESIDENT.
WHERE WERE YOU IN THAT BATTLE?
Please, I hope conservatives are not offended. I will support the Confederate Yankee and all those who are against this lawyer & the birthers. WE ARE UNITED IN OUR OPPOSITION AGAINST THE Oba-messiah.
I do not see this as a need to wipe out other conservatives who disagree with ME. Which is A SIMILAR the tactic of the communists & liberals, in order to gain THEIR UNITED objective, of electing & protecting the Oba-messiah. The "night of the long-knives" does not need to EVER happen. Use Reagan as an example.
I am taking you to task, Confederate Yankee, just like you are questioning not just the integrity but sanity of this conservative lawyer. I hate & despise it when any conservative & independent implies or actually states she or the birthers are crazy.
From the liberal side of the fence, YOU, and all of the other conservative & independent pundits & bloggers, WILL ALWAYS LOOK CRAZY.
If you would simply point your fire AGAINST THOSE WHO THINK ALL CONSERVATIVES & OTHERS WHO DISAGREE WITH THE OBA-MESSIAH, ARE RADICAL, and if you would stop playing the heavy, MAYBE you would report on why this fraudulent "administration" refuses to release any detailed & complete citizenship data, educational and health information, which McCain released in totum.
cheers & good luck with your witch hunt.
I am sure the "other side" is cheering for you.
Posted by: lu-ee at August 04, 2009 08:23 PM (4BPHJ)
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PS
OK.
...now for the libs to jump in, MOUTHS FIRST, such as dude, lipswitch & that supposed expatkenyan liberal commie, in order to protect to th Oba-messiah & his defenders' "integrity." (sic)
....10, 9, 8, 7...6..5.....4.....3, 2...1... incoming....DUCK DUCK GOOSE....
OK.
...now for the libs to jump in, MOUTHS FIRST, such as dude, lipswitch & that supposed expatkenyan liberal commie, in order to protect to th Oba-messiah & his defenders' "integrity." (sic)
....10, 9, 8, 7...6..5.....4.....3, 2...1... incoming....DUCK DUCK GOOSE....
Posted by: lu-ee at August 04, 2009 08:32 PM (4BPHJ)
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Lu-ee, Admit it. You love us, those that you get to call liberals (gasp), commies, pinkos, socialists, and all the other names that you can think of.
As for Confederate Yankee, more often than not he and I disagree on most political topics. Nevertheless, we sometimes find common ground. But, when we don't have the same opinion, we don't resort to shouting matches and name calling.
His "conservative" credentials are well established. On the issue of the birthers, he, too, has called for Obama to release the original so called long form BC. In fact, he does so on this very page in a separate thread.
You are mistaken when you say that "...what this woman has done has not hurt the conservative cause one iota."
Now, it may be true that she speaks for you. Believe it or not, she doesn't speak for many "conservatives". I know this to be a fact. Many of my friends and most of my family members are "conservative" republicans.
CY and other "conservatives" who have a grasp of the issues aren't rejecting or attacking "conservatism" when they reject the many fallacies of the so called "birthers", such as the recent document in question. No, he and they are actually trying to help the cause of "conservatism".
Sorry to break the bad news to you pal, but it's you and other people who post the type of rubbish that you attempt to pass off as political discourse in regards to the BC issue who are actually doing harm to "the cause".
Your Liberal Friend,
Dude
As for Confederate Yankee, more often than not he and I disagree on most political topics. Nevertheless, we sometimes find common ground. But, when we don't have the same opinion, we don't resort to shouting matches and name calling.
His "conservative" credentials are well established. On the issue of the birthers, he, too, has called for Obama to release the original so called long form BC. In fact, he does so on this very page in a separate thread.
You are mistaken when you say that "...what this woman has done has not hurt the conservative cause one iota."
Now, it may be true that she speaks for you. Believe it or not, she doesn't speak for many "conservatives". I know this to be a fact. Many of my friends and most of my family members are "conservative" republicans.
CY and other "conservatives" who have a grasp of the issues aren't rejecting or attacking "conservatism" when they reject the many fallacies of the so called "birthers", such as the recent document in question. No, he and they are actually trying to help the cause of "conservatism".
Sorry to break the bad news to you pal, but it's you and other people who post the type of rubbish that you attempt to pass off as political discourse in regards to the BC issue who are actually doing harm to "the cause".
Your Liberal Friend,
Dude
Posted by: Dude at August 04, 2009 10:34 PM (byA+E)
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So if Obama's Hawaiian birth is legit, why is he spending thousands of dollars defending himself against this and dozens of similar cases, rather than simply post the correct birth certificate? Makes you wonder ... .
Posted by: Sterling at August 04, 2009 10:42 PM (+86uO)
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I vote "show us the birth certificate". Comparing "birthers" to "911 truthers" is acting stupidly.
Posted by: birther at August 05, 2009 12:08 AM (T9lTG)
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The real problem for Obama is that the birth certificate stuff--I believe he was born in Hawaii--plays to the belief that he is hiding things from us. He says he's against "single payer," then a video surfaces that he's for it. He opposes middle tax tax hikes, now we're not so sure. He claimed in his 2004 keynote that there is no blue or red America, but he's now pushing us in a very red direction indeed.
Posted by: John Ruberry at August 05, 2009 12:26 AM (l69UF)
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And Lu-ee is the poster child for the Democrats 2006 and 2008 sweeping landslide victories on local, state and federal levels. Lu-ee represents the fringe right of the base that has alienated themselves down to nothing left but a smoldering nub and dragged the GOP down with them. The far-right "base" that will lash out at you like schoolyard bullies and label you "Liberal" if you dare to have a difference of opinion about anything at all. Never mind the fact that you may be a Conservative and have Conservative values but God have mercy on your pathetic excuse of a soul if you don't live and die by the Birther sword!!! Nonsense!
May want to get a clue Lu-ee:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/122003/Political-Party-Affiliation-States-Blue-Red-Far.aspx
May want to get a clue Lu-ee:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/122003/Political-Party-Affiliation-States-Blue-Red-Far.aspx
Posted by: Lipiwitz at August 05, 2009 12:35 AM (bhNGz)
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cheers & good luck with your witch hunt.
I am sure the "other side" is cheering for you.
Posted by lu-ee at August 4, 2009 08:23 PM
lu-ee
I think that the other side is cheering for you. In fact, I wouldn't put it past some political operatives to have created that forgery on their own just to have an opportunity to prominently feature right-wing conspiracy believers such as yourself and Orly.
There are more than enough reasons to dislike Obama's policies without having to resort to claims he was born in Kenya. There are more than enough reasons to suspect Obama's truthfulness regarding his past without having to suppose a vast conspiracy back in the 1960's to hide his true country of birth.
We need to focus on Obama's dishonesty regarding taxes, the war, health care, transparency, corruption, etc., etc. I would much rather see people go after Obama on the Walpin firing than waste time on Birther nonsense.
And you know what? Just suppose Obama was born in Kenya, but a vast array of people have conspired to hide that fact from us. Just how do you think Obama will be forced out of office? Do you really think he will just leave on his own? Do you really think that a Congress full of Democrats would even consider for a picosecond impeaching Obama?
So please give up on condemning our own. Go ahead with enough of the Birther accusations to force the long form out of him. As CY has already pointed out, there probably is something on the long form that tarnishes the image of The Won (maybe he had 6 toes?). But stop with the purity tests and focus your efforts on the real enemy. Not CY
I am sure the "other side" is cheering for you.
Posted by lu-ee at August 4, 2009 08:23 PM
lu-ee
I think that the other side is cheering for you. In fact, I wouldn't put it past some political operatives to have created that forgery on their own just to have an opportunity to prominently feature right-wing conspiracy believers such as yourself and Orly.
There are more than enough reasons to dislike Obama's policies without having to resort to claims he was born in Kenya. There are more than enough reasons to suspect Obama's truthfulness regarding his past without having to suppose a vast conspiracy back in the 1960's to hide his true country of birth.
We need to focus on Obama's dishonesty regarding taxes, the war, health care, transparency, corruption, etc., etc. I would much rather see people go after Obama on the Walpin firing than waste time on Birther nonsense.
And you know what? Just suppose Obama was born in Kenya, but a vast array of people have conspired to hide that fact from us. Just how do you think Obama will be forced out of office? Do you really think he will just leave on his own? Do you really think that a Congress full of Democrats would even consider for a picosecond impeaching Obama?
So please give up on condemning our own. Go ahead with enough of the Birther accusations to force the long form out of him. As CY has already pointed out, there probably is something on the long form that tarnishes the image of The Won (maybe he had 6 toes?). But stop with the purity tests and focus your efforts on the real enemy. Not CY
Posted by: iconoclast at August 05, 2009 12:58 AM (O8ebz)
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Taitz certainly appears to be a piece of work, but she's also been smeared. For instance, in her CNN appearance, someone claimed that she "rambled" when in fact she didn't say anything out of line. It might be helpful to note that she's not a native English speaker.
What CY could do is point out her errors on the one hand, but on the other he could point out that the Salon piece he's linking to contains an outrageous lie. The details on that lie are at my name's link.
Why isn't this site pointing out that Salon outrageously lied? Why isn't this site trying to force Salon to print a correction?
What CY could do is point out her errors on the one hand, but on the other he could point out that the Salon piece he's linking to contains an outrageous lie. The details on that lie are at my name's link.
Why isn't this site pointing out that Salon outrageously lied? Why isn't this site trying to force Salon to print a correction?
Posted by: The details at August 05, 2009 02:40 PM (OLX6B)
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Dr. Orly is very difficult to defend considering her cheese slid off her cracker. Listening to this woman speak, she obviously is not a native born American citizen (not questioning her citizenship) so it's quite ironic that she is questioning the citizenship of somebody else. Her accent is so thick, she makes Zsa Zsa Gabor sound like Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Lipiwitz at August 05, 2009 05:41 PM (OX5qU)
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I normally do not try to contradict other conservatives. In this case CY, you are wrong concerning the Republic of Kenya issue. I have no proof except what I have read and CY is wrong. Period. I don't know if the document in question is genuine or not however it does have reference data on it which could be checked as opposed to what Obama has offered so far. Obama has shown such a concern for many of his family members that I wonder why he rushed by to Hawaii when Grandma Dunham was dying. Was it to make sure she did not confess something on her deathbed kept secret all these years?
Posted by: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III at August 05, 2009 08:49 PM (1Hyas)
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The amazing thing about a certain segment of conservatives is that you tolerate no deviation from the groupthink. I do not agree with many of the CY's positions, but he is entitled to his opinions - and he usually provides good reasons for his position. I respect that because it provides a basis on which to hold a reasonable debate on issues. A number of prominent conservatives have come out and said the whole birther movement is misguided or driven by cranks. Immediately, they get pounced upon by other conservatives and receive hate mail and death threats as though they were part of the extreme left wing. CY saw the Kenyan birth certificate as a fraud, as did I. I expected to be ranted at (thanks lu-ee!), but some of you turn on one of your own because he dared to think independently. Surely you realize that you will never win any argument, let alone heart and minds, through intimidation.
The left has its fair share of idiots too but there is a far wider tolerance of dissent and acceptance that no two people think exactly alike on all issues.
Whoever faked the birth certificate (supposedly a "liberal"), it was a stupid move since the last thing we need right now is more incitement.
iconoclast is correct - the righteous fanatics (such as lu-ee, birthers and others) are being cheered by "the other side" because it is driving independents and moderate conservatives away from the right.
The left has its fair share of idiots too but there is a far wider tolerance of dissent and acceptance that no two people think exactly alike on all issues.
Whoever faked the birth certificate (supposedly a "liberal"), it was a stupid move since the last thing we need right now is more incitement.
iconoclast is correct - the righteous fanatics (such as lu-ee, birthers and others) are being cheered by "the other side" because it is driving independents and moderate conservatives away from the right.
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