Liebs
Wasn't planning on blogging the RNC tonight, but during Joe Lieberman's speech, my wife made a good point.
Lieberman's speech espousing John McCain's and Sarah Palin's "America First" beliefs also reflects Lieberman's own belief in America over party. The Democrats are going to strip Lieberman of the positions and power he's earned during his time in the Senate for the speech he's giving now. He's willing to put America ahead of party as well.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 09:59 PM
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I agree. Took guts to do what he did. "Country First" is most definitely a fitting theme for him. Can anyone recall what the actual theme of the DNC was? I don't seem to recall any theme in the speeches at that convention!
Posted by: nina at September 02, 2008 10:12 PM (cHSOu)
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I've been a long-time fan of Joe Lieberman. Count me as one of his supporters, and also count me as one of those out gunning for the real estate crook Harry Reid.
Posted by: Mescalero at September 02, 2008 10:33 PM (4pBs8)
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And if Lieberman is stripped, do you think he wouldn't switch to having an (R) behind his name?
Does Reid want to add an (R) in the count? Bring it on. It's time to engage these people.
Does Reid want to add an (R) in the count? Bring it on. It's time to engage these people.
Posted by: redherkey at September 02, 2008 10:40 PM (kjqFg)
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Funny. I had the same exchange with my wife almost. What Lieberman did was balls out courageous. He will pay for what he did, and he knew it before he did it. I admire him an awful lot. If I find out down the road that he had already decided to hang it up before he made that statement, it won't matter. Lieberman has shown he is willing to give up a hell of a lot for what he knows is right.
Posted by: ccoffer at September 02, 2008 11:00 PM (svvN8)
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Thats defeatist, though. Lieberman should be fighting to win back his party from the scum who control it. What if....after McCain and Palin win, Lieberman winds up in a position to preach to democrats about how to really compete in national elections?
I can see it happening. I dig intellectual competition. Its a shame I have to vote for republicans every election cycle just for the sake of keeping the Bolsheviks at bay.
I can see it happening. I dig intellectual competition. Its a shame I have to vote for republicans every election cycle just for the sake of keeping the Bolsheviks at bay.
Posted by: ccoffer at September 02, 2008 11:09 PM (svvN8)
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No doubt in my mind that Lieberman has the guts to have made a good running mate with McCain. But I am well content with Palin. Either way, the Washington set that gave rise to the rumors of "taxation without representation" will be checking their hole cards and escape routes. The Obamasiah will only expand that evil empire and tax us into oblivion. Our choice, this time I think. I hope we're much smarter than I think we are.
Posted by: Tonto (USA) at September 02, 2008 11:18 PM (Qv1xF)
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My husband and I had the same conversation last night as well.
It took a lot of guts, and says a lot about his character to me.
It took a lot of guts, and says a lot about his character to me.
Posted by: Kari at September 03, 2008 05:25 AM (vOZi9)
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Fantasizing that Senator Lieberman would turn Republican is akin to burying one's head in the sand. He's one of the last of the anticommunist liberal breed, with the accent on the 'liberal'.
A radical he's not, and he's well aware of the pernicious trend of the Democratic Party into the clutches of its plutocratic radical fringe and its media enablers, and the dangers to our democracy and way of life in case they should gain control of both the Presidency and Congress. And as noted before, he (unlike the supporters of the Democratic candidate, and perhaps the candidate himself) is honorable enough to put country before party. More power to him.
A radical he's not, and he's well aware of the pernicious trend of the Democratic Party into the clutches of its plutocratic radical fringe and its media enablers, and the dangers to our democracy and way of life in case they should gain control of both the Presidency and Congress. And as noted before, he (unlike the supporters of the Democratic candidate, and perhaps the candidate himself) is honorable enough to put country before party. More power to him.
Posted by: Micropotamus at September 03, 2008 07:23 AM (fuC1N)
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That stooge Richardson denounced Joe as "bitter". Sound familiar? I'm not sure what Joe should be bitter about, he is after all, still in the same high office in contrast to Lamont. Perhaps it is Richardson who feels the bite since he sold out his patrons, the Clintons, for what seems to be a rapidly wasting asset: the good grades of the O-bots.
"Country First" resonates well, I think. This is another example of what Dr Dean has pointed out: the Rightwing highjacking of patriotic themes and symbols. Thing is, no one prevents the Dems from making similar appeals and sometimes they do. It is just that they appear stilted and forced because they are and the establishment Dems can count on some doof like Carter or More to whiz on it out of hand before the media at some point. I would dearly love to see the anarcho-morons waving flags rather than wiping their asses with them, probably as much as Howard Dean but they just don't cooperate, do they?
Micro, could we be related?
"Country First" resonates well, I think. This is another example of what Dr Dean has pointed out: the Rightwing highjacking of patriotic themes and symbols. Thing is, no one prevents the Dems from making similar appeals and sometimes they do. It is just that they appear stilted and forced because they are and the establishment Dems can count on some doof like Carter or More to whiz on it out of hand before the media at some point. I would dearly love to see the anarcho-morons waving flags rather than wiping their asses with them, probably as much as Howard Dean but they just don't cooperate, do they?
Micro, could we be related?
Posted by: megapotamus at September 03, 2008 10:02 AM (LF+qW)
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Joe Lieberman is far from bitter, and Richardson is just lashing out in frustration.
Cousin Mega and I also seem to agree also on the misnamed anarcho-morons. In truth, they are more like the oh-so-sophisticated European street thugs of the 1930s, who were more into violence than politics - viz. the Communist street thugs who went over to the Nazis en masse when the German communists came out on the short end.
Our own street thugs are more pampered, however. The ACLU will provide endless free legal services and press releases blaming the police. Whereas in the 30s, said thugs actually ran the risk of having their heads busted by the opposing mob, or by the police. Ours bask in the output of an adoring MSM, unless Zombie is in the crowd - and even Zombie can't cover all of the misnamed 'protests'.
Cousin Mega and I also seem to agree also on the misnamed anarcho-morons. In truth, they are more like the oh-so-sophisticated European street thugs of the 1930s, who were more into violence than politics - viz. the Communist street thugs who went over to the Nazis en masse when the German communists came out on the short end.
Our own street thugs are more pampered, however. The ACLU will provide endless free legal services and press releases blaming the police. Whereas in the 30s, said thugs actually ran the risk of having their heads busted by the opposing mob, or by the police. Ours bask in the output of an adoring MSM, unless Zombie is in the crowd - and even Zombie can't cover all of the misnamed 'protests'.
Posted by: Micropotamus at September 03, 2008 02:07 PM (fuC1N)
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First Zell Miller, now Joe Lieberman. That is two Democrat senators in a row.
I wonder when it is going to sink through the bone in the heads of the Democrats that there is something going on here, and they may want to find out what it is.
I wonder when it is going to sink through the bone in the heads of the Democrats that there is something going on here, and they may want to find out what it is.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at September 03, 2008 06:31 PM (TUWci)
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I was very happy to see Joe supporting McCain. It only shows that every dog has his day. The democrats eat their own, but make no mistake, he didn't do it for revenge on the democrats.
Joe put his country first and he has my ultimate respect.
Hillary, on the other hand gets NO respect from me. As her party ousted her and she's still selling out for fear that her political aspirations won't be reached in 2012. I got news for ya lady ~ they're over.
Joe put his country first and he has my ultimate respect.
Hillary, on the other hand gets NO respect from me. As her party ousted her and she's still selling out for fear that her political aspirations won't be reached in 2012. I got news for ya lady ~ they're over.
Posted by: Catarina at September 07, 2008 03:45 AM (G0ErD)
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