Drudge Might Have Been Right
If this is accurate, will I have to issue an apology for my apology now?
I only ask because I just stumbled across an account from an AFP journalist at the John McCain press conference in Baghdad, confirming that a reporter was giggling during the press conference:Considering how this same article describes how the "slightly incredulous" journalists who covered the press conference "openly scoffed afterwards," it doesn't seem that far-fetched that someone in the press corps might have taken the opportunity to slip in a mocking comment in a stage whisper, just loud enough for fellow journalists to hear it, but not loud enough to be picked up by microphones directed at McCain. If the press conference official that leaked to Drudge was standing behind the last row of reporters as I've seen them do in the past, he might have been in a position to hear someone quietly mocking McCain's comments, even if those comments were perhaps meant from private consumption. If Raw Story is correct, Michael Ware happened to be sitting in the back row at that press conference, just where this AFP reporter places the giggler. Let the games begin, again. Update: Nope, Drudge is still wrong. The giggling reporter was not Ware, and the press conference was not interrupted, according to Raw Story.
"I studied warfare. I'm a student of history. If you control the capital city of a nation you have a significant advantage," countered McCain as one reporter giggled at the back.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 12:47 PM
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Posted by: Bill Faith at April 03, 2007 02:28 PM (n7SaI)
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"Drudge Might Have Been Right"
You mean "Drudge might have exagerrated a non-story".
Your welcome for the correction.
You mean "Drudge might have exagerrated a non-story".
Your welcome for the correction.
Posted by: Mike at April 03, 2007 04:44 PM (Zge8p)
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You mean You're, of course.
And you're welcome for a real correction, not just one that suits your personal preferences.
And you're welcome for a real correction, not just one that suits your personal preferences.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at April 03, 2007 05:07 PM (HcgFD)
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Who cares?
Using the new fake but accurate standard, its pretty safe to say he wanted to do it, so therefore he did it.
Using the new fake but accurate standard, its pretty safe to say he wanted to do it, so therefore he did it.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 03, 2007 06:42 PM (22lCG)
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Was the AFP reporter identifying the giggler the same AFP reporter you can't trust because their MSM bias makes them put the word "terrorists" in quotes?
Just asking.
You guys really don't need much evidence to believe whatever you want to believe. Then again, not too surprising -- you fell for the WMD story hook, line, and sinker.
Just asking.
You guys really don't need much evidence to believe whatever you want to believe. Then again, not too surprising -- you fell for the WMD story hook, line, and sinker.
Posted by: Pennypacker at April 03, 2007 07:20 PM (/erTa)
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Penny,
Of course we did. I mean all of that started the day Bush took office right? Nobody before Bush ever claimed that Hussein had WMD, right? LOL. When a leftists like you can admit to the truth, then we might take you seriously. But until then you are simply another Rosie O'Donnell - a person with absolutely no intellectual honesty, let alone cajones.
Of course we did. I mean all of that started the day Bush took office right? Nobody before Bush ever claimed that Hussein had WMD, right? LOL. When a leftists like you can admit to the truth, then we might take you seriously. But until then you are simply another Rosie O'Donnell - a person with absolutely no intellectual honesty, let alone cajones.
Posted by: Specter at April 03, 2007 08:18 PM (ybfXM)
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Thanks for the proof-read.
My statement still stands. You have no evidence. All you have is speculation and hearsay.
Unless you have talked to a reporter that was at that conference and saw Ware "heckling" McCain, then you have something. If not thanks for playing.
My statement still stands. You have no evidence. All you have is speculation and hearsay.
Unless you have talked to a reporter that was at that conference and saw Ware "heckling" McCain, then you have something. If not thanks for playing.
Posted by: Mike at April 03, 2007 11:21 PM (Zge8p)
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I'm pretty sure that Dick Cheney killed a panda. I have no evidence, other than the word of a police captain in Baghdad... Still, the burden of proof is so low these days.
Posted by: ts at April 04, 2007 08:27 AM (ILyRW)
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Specter --
Actually, nobody before Bush used a phony claim of non-existent WMDs to start an illegal war of aggression.
YOU'RE welcome for the correction.
And, quite frankly, I have no problem being compared to Rosie O'Donnell, as she has both more intellectual honesty (not to mention brainpower) AND more COJONES (you're welcome for that correction, too) than you will ever dream of.
Actually, nobody before Bush used a phony claim of non-existent WMDs to start an illegal war of aggression.
YOU'RE welcome for the correction.
And, quite frankly, I have no problem being compared to Rosie O'Donnell, as she has both more intellectual honesty (not to mention brainpower) AND more COJONES (you're welcome for that correction, too) than you will ever dream of.
Posted by: David in NYC at April 04, 2007 01:34 PM (VVVSQ)
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What if there was a second giggler on the Grassy Knoll? Somebody call Powerline!
Posted by: scarshapedstar at April 04, 2007 02:17 PM (glUhi)
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What if there was a second giggler on the Grassy Knoll? Somebody call Powerline!
Funny you mention that... it seems there may have been, but the AFP journalist who wrote the article, Jenni Matthew seems unlikely to admit who the person was.
What if there was a second giggler on the Grassy Knoll? Somebody call Powerline!
Funny you mention that... it seems there may have been, but the AFP journalist who wrote the article, Jenni Matthew seems unlikely to admit who the person was.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at April 04, 2007 02:34 PM (9y6qg)
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Awww....c'mon...You're not gonna stop trying to pound that square peg into the round hole NOW, are you? The reporter was French! Maybe Michael Ware threw his voice! C'mon, there's all kinds of wingnuttery you can still milk out of this...
Posted by: Michael at April 04, 2007 02:51 PM (IBS+E)
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If only there were a video of the news conference--then we could begin to understand just what kind of hell John McCain had to endure.
Posted by: calling all toasters at April 04, 2007 03:00 PM (vdzoO)
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How about posting on the real story? What McCain said was laughable. (giggle-worthy)
Set aside that he took more than 100 soldiers, a few armored humvees, and a handful of helicopters away from whatever important business they may have had for his desperate photo-op. (there's some real support for our troops!)
Who cares if a reporter or two laughed at this clown? He is a joke. I hope he and Graham enjoy their bargain prayer rugs. That's all they're gonna get out of this ill-advised vacation.
Seriously, give this one up. Hey, I got something for you! Did you hear that Nancy Pelosi wore a head scarf while she was in Syria? She DID! What a... um... WOMAN-HATER!
(feel free to use that)
Set aside that he took more than 100 soldiers, a few armored humvees, and a handful of helicopters away from whatever important business they may have had for his desperate photo-op. (there's some real support for our troops!)
Who cares if a reporter or two laughed at this clown? He is a joke. I hope he and Graham enjoy their bargain prayer rugs. That's all they're gonna get out of this ill-advised vacation.
Seriously, give this one up. Hey, I got something for you! Did you hear that Nancy Pelosi wore a head scarf while she was in Syria? She DID! What a... um... WOMAN-HATER!
(feel free to use that)
Posted by: Jersey Citizen at April 04, 2007 03:29 PM (fDnUd)
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Drudge is still wrong? Drudge is always wrong but that doesn't stop him from ruling your world
Posted by: klyde at April 04, 2007 06:39 PM (zo8Zw)
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Nobody before Bush ever claimed that Hussein had WMD, right? LOL.
Actually, no president prior to Bush ever claimed that the WMD Saddam might have had constituted a threat to the U.S. requiring a massive ground invasion of Iraq.
And certainly nobody in their right mind claimed that Saddam had the capability to produce nuclear weapons, much less that "he has reconstituted nuclear weapons," as Cheney professed.
Perhaps if your arguments were supported by facts, Specter, you wouldn't need to resort ad hominem attacks.
Actually, no president prior to Bush ever claimed that the WMD Saddam might have had constituted a threat to the U.S. requiring a massive ground invasion of Iraq.
And certainly nobody in their right mind claimed that Saddam had the capability to produce nuclear weapons, much less that "he has reconstituted nuclear weapons," as Cheney professed.
Perhaps if your arguments were supported by facts, Specter, you wouldn't need to resort ad hominem attacks.
Posted by: ryeland at April 04, 2007 06:41 PM (qlm9M)
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Oh my, this is just too much fun. Your heroes have been disgraced, your candidates are a complete joke and your ideology lies in tatters.
I can't imagine a better time to be a liberal. Wait. How about 2008?
I can't imagine a better time to be a liberal. Wait. How about 2008?
Posted by: James Christopher at April 04, 2007 07:23 PM (fk2zG)
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Speaking as a journalist who has been to lots of press conferences, we often giggle and make smart assed comments to each other when the person giving the press conference says something incredibly stupid or painfully obviously wrong. So what? Being an elected official does not automatically make you an expert on anything, nor does it mean I have to treat you like royalty.
Posted by: rev.paperboy at April 04, 2007 07:26 PM (5Ybxi)
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Not sure this McCain story has legs to it. I think we all know this was mainly a photo-op for the Straight Talk Express and, really, would you expect a Republican to give an honest assessment on this disaster in Iraq?
But Lindsay Graham, now there's a story worth covering. He knows how to drive a hard bargin! 5 prayer rugs for $5.00! Talk about tough negotiations. Of course, bringing a 100 US soldiers and 5 helicopter gunships to the marketplace might seem like 'overkill', but you won't go home empty handed.
Truth be known, the merchant today said he gave him the rugs. Who could blame Lindsay for twisting this little story; I mean, taking 5 rugs for nothing from a merchant scratching a living in Baghdad would come across as a rather heartless gesture. Much better to say you paid for them, even if you didn't. Gotta love them Republican values.
But Lindsay Graham, now there's a story worth covering. He knows how to drive a hard bargin! 5 prayer rugs for $5.00! Talk about tough negotiations. Of course, bringing a 100 US soldiers and 5 helicopter gunships to the marketplace might seem like 'overkill', but you won't go home empty handed.
Truth be known, the merchant today said he gave him the rugs. Who could blame Lindsay for twisting this little story; I mean, taking 5 rugs for nothing from a merchant scratching a living in Baghdad would come across as a rather heartless gesture. Much better to say you paid for them, even if you didn't. Gotta love them Republican values.
Posted by: Innocent Bystander at April 04, 2007 07:48 PM (+JNxq)
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I confess. I giggled when I read that someone might possibly have giggled. I also snickered, snorted, and guffawed.
Posted by: myself at April 04, 2007 09:00 PM (dUpQV)
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Someone that cared enough about their country only had to google "1998 IAEA UN report on Iraq" in 2002 to discover the weapon's inspectors had certified that 98% of the weapons Iraq agreed to destroy after the Gulf War were indeed destroyed, and the remaining 2% either destroyed but not logged, or never existed. In other words, when Bush sent the UN weapon's inspectors back into Iraq in early 2003, it was exactly as Hans Blix described: " A wild goose chase." There was nothing there. Of course, Georgie B NOW says Saddam "wouldn't let the inspectors back in", which only serves to illustrate his ignorance or delusional state.
But research would take work, which is too hard when one can just fill their head with neocon talkinghead nonsense.
As far as Liberals go, I'll stick with MY favorite president George: "It is my fervent hope that we have established a LIBERAL NATION".
George Washington
You can keep your Male Cheerleader, yeah?
But research would take work, which is too hard when one can just fill their head with neocon talkinghead nonsense.
As far as Liberals go, I'll stick with MY favorite president George: "It is my fervent hope that we have established a LIBERAL NATION".
George Washington
You can keep your Male Cheerleader, yeah?
Posted by: farang at April 04, 2007 09:10 PM (nsVec)
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Don't surrender so easily. I think this story needs the equivalent of a "surge". Get some of your dead-ender friends together to claim the story is really true. Make something up that ties this all nicely together and declare yourselves victors and move on to a new Jamil Hussein.
Posted by: flounder at April 04, 2007 09:13 PM (g1hge)
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Tonight on the News Hour, Lehrer made Petraeus sweat BB's over the Mc Cain tour. I felt sorry for the guy; him trying to spin ever tighter circles around being "just a soldier". Rumsfeld would have slapped the crap out of him if he was still around. I have to say watching him tells me the whole thing is even WORSE than I imagined.
Posted by: yofish at April 04, 2007 10:16 PM (WLEJg)
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Ok, show's over, let's move along, ok? Hopefully, next time (or sometime soon) CY will finally *get* the idea that the guys presently leading the Right are hypocrites and liars (virtually all of them) and he'll be more careful about posting whatever they spew. Geez, I've actually begun to feel sorry for him and his fellows...once upon a time Conservatives had a real sense of honor (it'd be nice if someone were to resurrect that concept and return to it as a movement) and all of the foot soldiers on the Right are left holding the bag, as it were, making excuses for the morons who have forgotten basic conservative principles. When you add in gossip mongers like Drudge to the mix, they end up having to defend a seemingly endless chain of disasters, big and small, and it's got to be mighty wearying. So lay off him for a while and let him catch his breath....alright?
Posted by: Arlington Acid at April 05, 2007 03:58 AM (F3Leu)
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You guys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel these days looking for things to get excited and indignant about. Are you really unaware of how foolish you look?
Bush, McCain and the rest of your heroes are lucky that people aren't rolling in the aisles shrieking with laughter at their every utterance. "If we aren't victorious in Iraq, the terrorists will follow us home"? Hysterical. Oh, you mean he's serious.
Bush, McCain and the rest of your heroes are lucky that people aren't rolling in the aisles shrieking with laughter at their every utterance. "If we aren't victorious in Iraq, the terrorists will follow us home"? Hysterical. Oh, you mean he's serious.
Posted by: Bob Hopeless at April 05, 2007 05:02 PM (OYaj1)
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But... but... but what does this have to do with the real story, which is Michael Ware's unproven drinking problem?
What is it with you wingnuts that you can't admit you're ever wrong? It's not as if you guys haven't got enough practice in being fallacious.
What is it with you wingnuts that you can't admit you're ever wrong? It's not as if you guys haven't got enough practice in being fallacious.
Posted by: jurassicpork at April 05, 2007 09:28 PM (C7rrY)
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The London Times had an April report from Iraq which stated that 21 of the workers in the market McCain and Graham visited were shot to death the next day. Laugh if you want, but there is a Real World out there.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1604931.ece:
"The latest massacre of Iraqi children came as 21 Shia market workers were ambushed, bound and shot dead north of the capital. The victims came from the Baghdad market visited the previous day by John McCain, the US presidential candidate, who said that an American security plan in the capital was starting to show signs of progress."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1604931.ece:
"The latest massacre of Iraqi children came as 21 Shia market workers were ambushed, bound and shot dead north of the capital. The victims came from the Baghdad market visited the previous day by John McCain, the US presidential candidate, who said that an American security plan in the capital was starting to show signs of progress."
Posted by: MedallionOfFerret at April 06, 2007 12:33 AM (E/BKJ)
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