CNN Poll Says Bush Failed: America Not Completely Fascist Yet
Note with amusement that CNN filed this under "Broken Government," and then get sockpuppet some smelling salts :
I'm glad to see that the Halliburton-built
Most Americans do not believe the Bush administration has gone too far in restricting civil liberties as part of the war on terror, a new CNN poll released Thursday suggests. While 39 percent of the 1,013 poll respondents said the Bush administration has gone too far, 34 percent said they believe the administration has been about right on the restrictions, according to the Opinion Research Corp. survey. Another 25 percent said the administration has not gone far enough. Asked whether Bush has more power than any other U.S. president, 65 percent of poll respondents said no. Thirty-three percent said yes. Of those who said yes, a quarter said that was bad for the country.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 01:12 PM
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I saw the promos for "Broken Government" while working out at my health club and chuckled each time I saw it. A totally moonbat lineup of programs.
Guess they won't cover the recent "news" that Teddy Kennedy sobered up enough to commit treason. Or CNN's efforts on the behalf of islamic terrorists in Iraq.
Guess they won't cover the recent "news" that Teddy Kennedy sobered up enough to commit treason. Or CNN's efforts on the behalf of islamic terrorists in Iraq.
Posted by: iconoclast at October 26, 2006 01:22 PM (Jpc2l)
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We can attribute the lack of fascism to the Department of Homeland Security's gutlessness in enforcing various and sundry crimes against the state proved by examinations of the reading lists of all Americans and foreigners dangerous enough to use a public library or to buy patchouli incense. The ineptness of bureaucrats in bringing about the Republic's descent into the dark night of totalitarianism is truly appalling.
Posted by: wjo at October 26, 2006 05:15 PM (gI0Ku)
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Teddy Kennedy committed treason? I didn't know he was involved with the Wilson/Plame leak. After all, that's been the only treasonous thing that's happened in the last 40 years...
Posted by: Becker at October 26, 2006 05:47 PM (98RbQ)
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Becker: I hope your entire comment is 'sarcasm'. Otherwise poor old uneducated me can supply you with a list of 'traitors' in the past 6 years that will smoke your brain or make you want to go on a killing spree.
Posted by: Scrapiron at October 26, 2006 05:53 PM (GIL7z)
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Excerpted and linked at Bill's Bites >> Poll: Most feel civil liberties not harmed by war on terror
Posted by: Bill Faith at October 26, 2006 06:02 PM (n7SaI)
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This means that 33% of Americans are ignorant of history. Prior wartime presidents (Lincoln and Wilson come to mind first) exercised much more severe and actually REPRESSIVE powers. (arrest and trial of American citizens by military authorities? Civil war under Lincoln)
How sad.
How sad.
Posted by: Dawnfire82 at October 26, 2006 08:37 PM (RvTAf)
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Just wait until Bush starts declaring those of us who oppose him vociferously as "enemy combatants" and throwing our a--es in jail.
Then, Bush's fascism will become very clear to everyone.
Then, Bush's fascism will become very clear to everyone.
Posted by: TD Larkin at October 26, 2006 08:51 PM (BXNs8)
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Don't hold your breath TD. You will die first. OF course you'd probably blame that on Bush too.
Posted by: Specter at October 26, 2006 08:57 PM (ybfXM)
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Specter, what I am supposed to "die" from? Al Qaeda?
Please, they are essentially a video production company these days. I don't lie awake at night worrying about those clowns.
Please, they are essentially a video production company these days. I don't lie awake at night worrying about those clowns.
Posted by: TD Larkin at October 26, 2006 09:34 PM (BXNs8)
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"This means that 33% of Americans are ignorant of history. Prior wartime presidents (Lincoln and "Wilson come to mind first) exercised much more severe and actually REPRESSIVE powers. (arrest and trial of American citizens by military authorities? Civil war under Lincoln)"
Let's not forget the liberal hero FDR who with another liberal hero Earl Warren rounded up Japanese-americans, including thousands of US citizens, and sent them to camps.
Let's not forget the liberal hero FDR who with another liberal hero Earl Warren rounded up Japanese-americans, including thousands of US citizens, and sent them to camps.
Posted by: Patrick at October 26, 2006 10:08 PM (JgFks)
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"Just wait until Bush starts declaring those of us who oppose him vociferously as "enemy combatants" and throwing our a--es in jail."
When they went after the child molesters I didnt pipe up, because I wasn't a child molester;
when they went after the suicide bombing terror leaders, I didnt pipe up, because I wasn't a suicide bombing terror leader;
then, when they went after the burglars and thieves, and I cowardly said nothing because I wasnt a thief;
*then* they went after the drug dealers, and I said nothing as I wasnt into drugs ...
and then they went after the shoplifters ...
and then the hustlers and con men ...
And I did nothing to defend these from the ravages of the police state that tried, convicted and jailed these for being 'enemies of the state'...
But by that time our town was pretty well cleaned up on crime, and I said "Hey, being tough on criminals really works, doesnt it!"
:-)
When they went after the child molesters I didnt pipe up, because I wasn't a child molester;
when they went after the suicide bombing terror leaders, I didnt pipe up, because I wasn't a suicide bombing terror leader;
then, when they went after the burglars and thieves, and I cowardly said nothing because I wasnt a thief;
*then* they went after the drug dealers, and I said nothing as I wasnt into drugs ...
and then they went after the shoplifters ...
and then the hustlers and con men ...
And I did nothing to defend these from the ravages of the police state that tried, convicted and jailed these for being 'enemies of the state'...
But by that time our town was pretty well cleaned up on crime, and I said "Hey, being tough on criminals really works, doesnt it!"
:-)
Posted by: Patrick at October 26, 2006 10:15 PM (JgFks)
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TD,
Are you more worried about Hezbollah? How about Hmmas? Islamic Jihad? Muslim Brotherhood? The Iranian Revolutionary Guards or whatever?
By the way September 2006 was a milestone of sorts. It was the month that military fatalities in the GWOT (from October 2001 onward - almost 5 years) exceeded the civilian fatalities of 9/11 (almost two hours). It is a nice way of remembering that our adversaries do not seek military targets - they seek you TD.
Two thousand, zero, zero party over oops out of time... So tonight let's party like its 9/10...
Are you more worried about Hezbollah? How about Hmmas? Islamic Jihad? Muslim Brotherhood? The Iranian Revolutionary Guards or whatever?
By the way September 2006 was a milestone of sorts. It was the month that military fatalities in the GWOT (from October 2001 onward - almost 5 years) exceeded the civilian fatalities of 9/11 (almost two hours). It is a nice way of remembering that our adversaries do not seek military targets - they seek you TD.
Two thousand, zero, zero party over oops out of time... So tonight let's party like its 9/10...
Posted by: Boghie at October 26, 2006 11:02 PM (f2xdo)
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Just wait until Bush starts declaring those of us who oppose him vociferously as "enemy combatants" and throwing our a--es in jail.
I've been wondering why you're even still alive to post this. If its as bad as claimed, there should be a legion of moonbats taking dirtnaps in shallow graves with bullet holes in the back of their heads.
Where's the beef?
I've been wondering why you're even still alive to post this. If its as bad as claimed, there should be a legion of moonbats taking dirtnaps in shallow graves with bullet holes in the back of their heads.
Where's the beef?
Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 26, 2006 11:19 PM (AuPsg)
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Are you more worried about Hezbollah? How about Hmmas? Islamic Jihad? Muslim Brotherhood? The Iranian Revolutionary Guards or whatever?
Not particularly. Hezbollah's last action against us was the kidnapping of our CIA station chief in Lebanon in 1984. Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Muslim Brotherhood have never taken any action against us. The Iranians last act against us was the bombing of the Khobar barracks in Saudi in 1996 which was retaliation against our shooting down of an Iranian civilian jetliner in 1988 that killed 290 people.
So, let's see. In terms of nuclear warheards, conventional warheads, laser-guided weapons, jet fighters and bombers, aircraft carriers, tanks, artillery, and cruise missiles who do you think has the upper hand? Us, or the Hamas/Hezbollah/Islamic Jihad rabble?
No, I must admit that I don't spent a lot of time cowering in my bunker worrying about these clowns. Do you?
Not particularly. Hezbollah's last action against us was the kidnapping of our CIA station chief in Lebanon in 1984. Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Muslim Brotherhood have never taken any action against us. The Iranians last act against us was the bombing of the Khobar barracks in Saudi in 1996 which was retaliation against our shooting down of an Iranian civilian jetliner in 1988 that killed 290 people.
So, let's see. In terms of nuclear warheards, conventional warheads, laser-guided weapons, jet fighters and bombers, aircraft carriers, tanks, artillery, and cruise missiles who do you think has the upper hand? Us, or the Hamas/Hezbollah/Islamic Jihad rabble?
No, I must admit that I don't spent a lot of time cowering in my bunker worrying about these clowns. Do you?
Posted by: TD Larkin at October 26, 2006 11:31 PM (BXNs8)
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I've never been more scared in my life...
During a war our Congress passes a bill the President signs which provides military tribunals for non-citizen illegal combatants and terrorists.
That terrifies me as a citizen who is not a combatant and is not initiating any terrorist activity.
Who would have thought that espionage, sabotage, and murder would be illegal in a time of war?
During a war our Congress passes a bill the President signs which provides military tribunals for non-citizen illegal combatants and terrorists.
That terrifies me as a citizen who is not a combatant and is not initiating any terrorist activity.
Who would have thought that espionage, sabotage, and murder would be illegal in a time of war?
Posted by: Boghie at October 26, 2006 11:32 PM (f2xdo)
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So TD,
You think we respond militarily by attacking civilians! Shooting down jet liners. Wow.
We obviously knocked down TWA 800!
Don't forget about the missile that slammed into the Pentagon!
MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base (www.tkb.org)
Hezbollah murdered 836 people. Over 200 Americans died in an hour while on a peacekeeping mission. I do not forgive them that.
Hamas routinely murders civilians and diplomats. 603 murders.
Islamic Jihad the same...
I do not cower in a bunker. And, I do not wait to get hit. There is no reason for any of these barbaric turds to exist.
When you talk about our military hardware are you directly stating that a Total War solution is available if/when we are attacked next? What is your acceptable casualty limit? Or is your argument merely a debating tactic?
You think we respond militarily by attacking civilians! Shooting down jet liners. Wow.
We obviously knocked down TWA 800!
Don't forget about the missile that slammed into the Pentagon!
MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base (www.tkb.org)
Hezbollah murdered 836 people. Over 200 Americans died in an hour while on a peacekeeping mission. I do not forgive them that.
Hamas routinely murders civilians and diplomats. 603 murders.
Islamic Jihad the same...
I do not cower in a bunker. And, I do not wait to get hit. There is no reason for any of these barbaric turds to exist.
When you talk about our military hardware are you directly stating that a Total War solution is available if/when we are attacked next? What is your acceptable casualty limit? Or is your argument merely a debating tactic?
Posted by: Boghie at October 27, 2006 12:08 AM (f2xdo)
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I've never been more scared in my life...
You need to ground your tinfoil hat better. I suggest a 100' ring of 500mcm copper with twenty 4/0 copper radials each 25' long.
That should do the trick and get you back in shape.
You need to ground your tinfoil hat better. I suggest a 100' ring of 500mcm copper with twenty 4/0 copper radials each 25' long.
That should do the trick and get you back in shape.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 27, 2006 03:35 AM (AuPsg)
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"Just wait until Bush starts declaring those of us who oppose him vociferously as "enemy combatants" and throwing our a--es in jail."
Riiight. He's, uh, waiting until about 5 minutes before he leaves office to do that, right?
If a REAL totalitarian government were to emerge in this country, gutless clownboys like this will hide under the bed. Confederate Yankee and many of the people populating forums like this are the types who'd step in to set things right. It's the ones yammering about their 'terrible oppression' (WHAT oppression?) during times when they actually have nothing to fear who'd be actually first to join up with the next wave of Nazis, because all they really care about is promoting their own agenda. What they want more than anything else is the chance to shut up anyone who disagrees with them.
Riiight. He's, uh, waiting until about 5 minutes before he leaves office to do that, right?
If a REAL totalitarian government were to emerge in this country, gutless clownboys like this will hide under the bed. Confederate Yankee and many of the people populating forums like this are the types who'd step in to set things right. It's the ones yammering about their 'terrible oppression' (WHAT oppression?) during times when they actually have nothing to fear who'd be actually first to join up with the next wave of Nazis, because all they really care about is promoting their own agenda. What they want more than anything else is the chance to shut up anyone who disagrees with them.
Posted by: Mr. Snitch! at October 27, 2006 08:51 AM (2CNDQ)
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When asked, 99% polled had no idea what civil liberties they've lost.
The good news is that now Bush is taking away all our civil liberties we won't have to put up with trolls anymore, they'll be tracked down and sent to the gulag.......
The good news is that now Bush is taking away all our civil liberties we won't have to put up with trolls anymore, they'll be tracked down and sent to the gulag.......
Posted by: Old Tanker at October 27, 2006 08:53 AM (R1BcM)
Posted by: wjo at October 27, 2006 09:09 AM (gI0Ku)
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Hey TD, has Bush authorized the FBI to invade DU? I mean Clinton Authorized the FBI to invade the compound in Waco.
Has he authorized the FBI to storm a legal citizens house and kidnap a boy at gunpoint? Clinton did right.
Where you complaining then about your civil rights being taken away?
Have you complained about the Kelo case, where if the judges nominated by democrats had voted against it, you would not have lost the right own property.
And the original line of the Declaration of Independence read, "The are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Property."
Has he authorized the FBI to storm a legal citizens house and kidnap a boy at gunpoint? Clinton did right.
Where you complaining then about your civil rights being taken away?
Have you complained about the Kelo case, where if the judges nominated by democrats had voted against it, you would not have lost the right own property.
And the original line of the Declaration of Independence read, "The are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Property."
Posted by: James Stephenson at October 27, 2006 09:16 AM (03dXc)
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It continues to amaze me that those taking the position that data mining phone records in order disrupt terrorist activity is a serious invasion of privacy, but appear to have no problem with publishing the identity and private emails of a senate page in order to score cheap political points in a meaningless race for a house seat.
Posted by: TO at October 27, 2006 09:40 AM (mNYvH)
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TD,
Don't be naive. You said:
Just wait until Bush starts declaring those of us who oppose him vociferously as "enemy combatants" and throwing our a--es in jail.
Then, Bush's fascism will become very clear to everyone.
To which I replied - Don't hold your breath. That was in obvious reference to your statement about us having to "just wait." The line was simple - if you hold your breath waiting for that to happen you will die before it does. What was hard to understand about that?
Don't be naive. You said:
Just wait until Bush starts declaring those of us who oppose him vociferously as "enemy combatants" and throwing our a--es in jail.
Then, Bush's fascism will become very clear to everyone.
To which I replied - Don't hold your breath. That was in obvious reference to your statement about us having to "just wait." The line was simple - if you hold your breath waiting for that to happen you will die before it does. What was hard to understand about that?
Posted by: Specter at October 27, 2006 10:16 AM (ybfXM)
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I think the American people do not understand what liberty is. Most think it is normal to try and get on a plane and have to throw your persoal affect away and strip half naked, yet don't understand it is for nothing other than show. They also don't understand it is better for cops to observe drunk drivers in their activities rather than stopping everyone at a check point and clearly breaking the law by requiring sobriety test. Or to try and get on a subway and have your possession inspected.
They don't seem to understand that war means defining a human enemy and killing him by any means possible to maintain your freedom. Our enemy is Islam. We need to put a hurt on every aspect of the people that expouse to this religion of hate.
They don't seem to understand that war means defining a human enemy and killing him by any means possible to maintain your freedom. Our enemy is Islam. We need to put a hurt on every aspect of the people that expouse to this religion of hate.
Posted by: David Caskey at October 27, 2006 12:22 PM (OSKRn)
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I thought TD's comments were sarcasm at first - always hard to tell with these sorts of posts. If he's not kidding, and five years after they're still finding human limbs in and around ground zero, and this guy thinks the Islamists are clowns and we have nothing to fear from them, then that's a sure sign of amazing success on the part of the administration. In the weeks after 9/11, the TDs of the world were trying to figure out who we should surrender/apologize/kneel to first, before they hit us again. Five years and a little action in Afghanistan and Iraq later, the Islamists are irelevent.
Posted by: chachi at October 27, 2006 12:29 PM (V/d7C)
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Just wait until Bush starts declaring those of us who oppose him vociferously as "enemy combatants" and throwing our a--es in jail.
I thought that was sarcasm....you mean you ACTUALLY think that's going to happen...
[Runs finger in circle by head...points at TD..."cuckoo, cuckoo"]
I thought that was sarcasm....you mean you ACTUALLY think that's going to happen...
[Runs finger in circle by head...points at TD..."cuckoo, cuckoo"]
Posted by: Cro at October 27, 2006 01:27 PM (9Qogb)
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I'm sitting here at Reagan airport replying to you over a Cingular connection. I love your post. I'm also being marinated in CNN and I can't escape. The f***king thing is everywhere in airports these days. It's piped over the speaker system. You can't get away from it. Stop by my blog and leave me a note if you'd like to help get CNN out of our airports.
Posted by: K T Cat at October 27, 2006 01:55 PM (DHuTQ)
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At the end of CNN 'Broken Gov't' they should have the voice over 'the DNC has approved this program'
Posted by: Bandit at October 27, 2006 02:37 PM (9UEu0)
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"Just wait until Bush starts declaring those of us who oppose him vociferously as "enemy combatants" and throwing our a--es in jail."
Yeah any day now.
If he had that kind of power, why pray tell are all the employees and owners of the NYT, the WaPo, CNN, CBS, and Reuters still on the loose?
The NYT has committed treason multiple times and has certainly been a royal pain in the a**.
Why, oh why, would the Great Leader hold off on them?
Yeah any day now.
If he had that kind of power, why pray tell are all the employees and owners of the NYT, the WaPo, CNN, CBS, and Reuters still on the loose?
The NYT has committed treason multiple times and has certainly been a royal pain in the a**.
Why, oh why, would the Great Leader hold off on them?
Posted by: Bostonian at October 27, 2006 06:13 PM (rXQoC)
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Most think it is normal to try and get on a plane and have to throw your persoal affect away and strip half naked
When I was a child growing up, anyone could get on a plane armed with a handgun and nobody cared.
A lot of this nonsense would be unneeded if we were to hand out .38's at the door to every passenger who wanted one ;->
When I was a child growing up, anyone could get on a plane armed with a handgun and nobody cared.
A lot of this nonsense would be unneeded if we were to hand out .38's at the door to every passenger who wanted one ;->
Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 28, 2006 12:29 AM (AuPsg)
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