Schwinns of War
And the questions surrounding the air strike at Qana keep coming.
This photo was first noted as a possible staged photo by A.J. Strata on July 31st.
Update: Ace takes this, and writes it better.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 03:16 PM
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"Most people viewing this photo, noticing the shattered toy perched precariously on shattered slabs, are even more convinced it was placed there by human hands, most logically the photographer's."
What did you do, take a survey? How do you know what most people think? And you assume most people are convinced ab initio that it was placed there by human hands (probably the photographer's) and then become even more convinced when they notice the slabs?
I must be in the minority, looks like random rubble to me. Maybe the bike is on top because it blew down from a higher story than the slabs.
No, on second thought, it must be a conspiracy. Enough of these toddler bike photos and the terrorists will surely win. One look at that photo and most people are even more convinced, as you say. Let's take our own perceptions and conspiracy theories and attribute them to most everyone else. It is truly comforting.
What did you do, take a survey? How do you know what most people think? And you assume most people are convinced ab initio that it was placed there by human hands (probably the photographer's) and then become even more convinced when they notice the slabs?
I must be in the minority, looks like random rubble to me. Maybe the bike is on top because it blew down from a higher story than the slabs.
No, on second thought, it must be a conspiracy. Enough of these toddler bike photos and the terrorists will surely win. One look at that photo and most people are even more convinced, as you say. Let's take our own perceptions and conspiracy theories and attribute them to most everyone else. It is truly comforting.
Posted by: aplomb at August 02, 2006 03:34 PM (778mn)
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Good catch Yankee! I had not made the connection. This photo (my other classic staged photo from that post) is by Kevin Frayer - husband of a CNN news exec who I believe also claims no staging. Will check further
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060731/481/b85891ea617d4765a40b20d951c37238
Cheers, AJStrata
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060731/481/b85891ea617d4765a40b20d951c37238
Cheers, AJStrata
Posted by: AJStrata at August 02, 2006 03:42 PM (67DAA)
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BTW you have seen the EU referendum's analysis of some video footage haven't you?
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/08/stretcher-alley.html
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/08/stretcher-alley.html
Posted by: Francis at August 02, 2006 04:26 PM (aiAZs)
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CY - They are clearly staged photos.
Perhaps the photographer of photo #2 can explain why everything in the vicinity is complete, unrecognizable rubble, and yet the bike remains remarkably intact, albeit a little dusty.
And then perhaps the photographer of photo #1 can explain how the bike is remarkably untouched, in fact not even touched by any debris or dust.
One look at these photos and I can discern that they are not what they allegedly depict. However, we must consider the fact that the IAF is remarkably precise in their targeting. Perhaps they sighted the bikes and aimed slightly to the - left.
Perhaps the photographer of photo #2 can explain why everything in the vicinity is complete, unrecognizable rubble, and yet the bike remains remarkably intact, albeit a little dusty.
And then perhaps the photographer of photo #1 can explain how the bike is remarkably untouched, in fact not even touched by any debris or dust.
One look at these photos and I can discern that they are not what they allegedly depict. However, we must consider the fact that the IAF is remarkably precise in their targeting. Perhaps they sighted the bikes and aimed slightly to the - left.
Posted by: Enlightened at August 02, 2006 05:08 PM (iB7ZQ)
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CY - Take a look at the youtube video on Powerline -
It shows Hezbollah terrorists/innocent civilians firing missiles from innocent civilian homes. Of course the conspiracy theorists will avow that these are not "missiles" coming from a "house" fired at "Israel." They are just "fireworks" coming from a "house" fired at "thin air".
So when Israel strikes back, and destroys the "house" and just about EVERYTHING in it, we are to believe that the "bikes" in pictures #1 and #2 above - survived pretty much intact, and the poor "civilians" that just got annihilated for shooting off "fireworks" were - innocent!
It shows Hezbollah terrorists/innocent civilians firing missiles from innocent civilian homes. Of course the conspiracy theorists will avow that these are not "missiles" coming from a "house" fired at "Israel." They are just "fireworks" coming from a "house" fired at "thin air".
So when Israel strikes back, and destroys the "house" and just about EVERYTHING in it, we are to believe that the "bikes" in pictures #1 and #2 above - survived pretty much intact, and the poor "civilians" that just got annihilated for shooting off "fireworks" were - innocent!
Posted by: Enlightened at August 02, 2006 06:04 PM (iB7ZQ)
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Trackback here
Posted by: Granddaddy Long Legs at August 02, 2006 06:20 PM (alXDI)
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AJ, Frayer's wife is ME Bureau Chief for CTV, not CNN.
Posted by: clarice at August 03, 2006 12:16 AM (QKUux)
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Just to verify, take a look at the pictures, this is NOT the same bicycle you are looking at. It has not same shape, colour, wheels. I'm either pro or con of Isreal or Libanon, but please stick to the facts.
Posted by: Karin at August 03, 2006 03:30 AM (4IQnr)
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Karin,
I think most folks knew that, but thanks for clarifying it for those who weren't paying attention.
I think most folks knew that, but thanks for clarifying it for those who weren't paying attention.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at August 03, 2006 06:10 AM (psJM2)
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It shows Hezbollah terrorists/innocent civilians firing missiles from innocent civilian homes. Of course the conspiracy theorists will avow that these are not "missiles" coming from a "house" fired at "Israel." They are just "fireworks" coming from a "house" fired at "thin air".
It was obviously a "wedding party"!
It shows Hezbollah terrorists/innocent civilians firing missiles from innocent civilian homes. Of course the conspiracy theorists will avow that these are not "missiles" coming from a "house" fired at "Israel." They are just "fireworks" coming from a "house" fired at "thin air".
It was obviously a "wedding party"!
Posted by: LagunaDave at August 03, 2006 08:21 AM (4CpEr)
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I work for a newspaper in the photo department and this is not uncommon in the past. They don't stage as much as they used to but I used to work with a photographer who kept a teddy bear in his car to toss into the center of a burned out home or building. True story.
Keep in mind that the photographers need to show the Hezbollah as the oppressed. Otherwise, they will get kicked out and not allowed to follow them around. Prime example? CNN being lead around by a Hez spokesman, shown only the areas they want them to see.
Keep in mind that the photographers need to show the Hezbollah as the oppressed. Otherwise, they will get kicked out and not allowed to follow them around. Prime example? CNN being lead around by a Hez spokesman, shown only the areas they want them to see.
Posted by: Pixelflash at August 03, 2006 02:37 PM (O+1/6)
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I could fake better pictures in my garage.
Posted by: Tom TB at August 03, 2006 04:10 PM (y6n8O)
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You missed some of the worst photographs. This one is extremely distressing, and probably not safe for work. I think the man's name in the photo is Bernard.
Posted by: Kevin at August 04, 2006 08:39 AM (++0ve)
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Karin,
Not sure exactly what your point is. However, I was thinking the same thing: that the two trikes ARE different. Not only that, but are those fingerprints on the wheel of the bottom photo? Looks like it was placed there to me.
That being said, I don't think that's the point of this story. The point is that hezbollah is amazingly adept at manipulating and staging almost anything they want to sway world opinion against not only Israel but anything Western.
Not sure exactly what your point is. However, I was thinking the same thing: that the two trikes ARE different. Not only that, but are those fingerprints on the wheel of the bottom photo? Looks like it was placed there to me.
That being said, I don't think that's the point of this story. The point is that hezbollah is amazingly adept at manipulating and staging almost anything they want to sway world opinion against not only Israel but anything Western.
Posted by: MBV at August 04, 2006 09:58 AM (Odhi4)
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I left a comment here:
The Jerusalem Post says Qana may have been totally staged.
It is also a story about bloggers.
Bloggers get results
My bit included a link to here so it served as a blogger track back.
Also you got a mention in the JP article.
Did I offend you?
The Jerusalem Post says Qana may have been totally staged.
It is also a story about bloggers.
Bloggers get results
My bit included a link to here so it served as a blogger track back.
Also you got a mention in the JP article.
Did I offend you?
Posted by: M. Simon at August 05, 2006 03:05 PM (vk2SY)
Posted by: M. Simon at August 05, 2006 03:08 PM (vk2SY)
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http://www.kohm.org/archive/21july2006.php
another bike. Of course, those fragile bunny ears somehow managed to not get hit by falling concrete. Who took the picture, I wonder
wait for it now....
another bike. Of course, those fragile bunny ears somehow managed to not get hit by falling concrete. Who took the picture, I wonder
wait for it now....Posted by: just me at August 07, 2006 09:05 PM (RV6nX)
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