The Nerve of This Guy
Would somebody have the decency to tell this man that he is losing the war?
Obviously, Prime Minister al-Maliki has not asked permission to win the war from "liberal hawk" John Murtha, who said Iraq was unwinnable. He has not heeded the common wisdom of the New York Times, that Iraq was, is, and always will be a quagmire. This Prime Minister Nouri Kamel al-Maliki ignores the pundits and the fatalists that long ago consigned his nation to the status of a lost cause. Just who does he think he is to win?
Iraqi troops will be able to handle security in all 18 of the country's provinces by the end of 2007 with additional training and equipment, the country's new prime minister said Wednesday. [snip] It is the second time in a week that al-Maliki has discussed a timeline for the handover of security responsibilities to Iraqi troops -- a development that President Bush has said would enable U.S. troops to leave. With more training and better equipment, "Our security forces will be capable of taking over the security portfolio in all Iraqi provinces within one year and a half,"... [snip] During a joint appearance with British Prime Minister Tony Blair on Monday, al-Maliki said his government could take over security for 16 of Iraq's 18 provinces by the end of this year.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 06:40 PM
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He's got his nerve! How dare he go against the wisdom of the NYTimes?
Sheesh!
Ohh, my! Murtha's going to have a fit, and you know how ugly that can get! Yeesh!
Sheesh!
Ohh, my! Murtha's going to have a fit, and you know how ugly that can get! Yeesh!
Posted by: benning at May 24, 2006 07:54 PM (RVmll)
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he doesn't need to have a fit to be ugly...LOL.
It is so hard to believe that MSM won't carry news like this.
It is so hard to believe that MSM won't carry news like this.
Posted by: Specter at May 24, 2006 08:11 PM (ybfXM)
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This makes me just hope against hope that the Democrats will take over the White House, Senate, House of Representatives, and local PTA so they can quickly surrender to the enemy and retreat from Iraq, thus saving us from the horror of anybody getting even madder at us for killing our nations enemies and encouraging democracy.
Posted by: Thrill at May 24, 2006 08:36 PM (DYb4r)
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Thrill, I like the way your mind works. Democrats surrender monkeys getting millions killed for no reason would take me back to my war days in Vietnam. Win a trophy, turn around and give it to the geeks you just beat. What a cowardly country we live in. But the U.S. Congress has declared that they are "above the law" so i guess it evens out in the liberal mind, na what mind, in the empty space in the cranium cavity of a liberal.
Posted by: Scrapiron at May 24, 2006 08:54 PM (y6n8O)
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Thrill,
You mean like Jefferson? Kennedy? Rockefeller? Pelosi? Hillary? etc. etc. etc.
"So blinded with hate they can't see"
You mean like Jefferson? Kennedy? Rockefeller? Pelosi? Hillary? etc. etc. etc.
"So blinded with hate they can't see"
Posted by: Specter at May 24, 2006 08:57 PM (ybfXM)
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I know one thing for damn sure: Cindy Sheehan will never give him a big hug like she did Hugo Chavez.
Posted by: Zhombre at May 24, 2006 09:42 PM (mgBNe)
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It's just as well, Cindy S. has cooties...
Posted by: WB at May 24, 2006 10:28 PM (Aj8Ke)
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I mean, the Islamofacists love their children too! The fact that they frequently strap bombs to those children and blow them up to kill people they disagree with is unimportant...WE MUST UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HATE US AND CHANGE OUR WAYS!!!! Pull the troops out now and we'll show the Islamists that we mean them no harm! That way, they won't attack us like they did on 9/11 (9/11 was after Operation Iraqi Freedom, right? I can't seem to remember... it's probably not really important).
Posted by: Thrill at May 24, 2006 10:32 PM (DYb4r)
Posted by: ticketplease at May 25, 2006 06:31 AM (MF225)
Posted by: Specter at May 25, 2006 07:12 AM (ybfXM)
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The Iraqi PM might just be wrong. Iraqis are sometimes wrong about their predictions. It's happened before. Ask Ahmed Chalabi.
Posted by: nick f at May 25, 2006 01:00 PM (vgzEN)
Posted by: Specter at May 25, 2006 04:22 PM (ybfXM)
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I wish I was the center fielder for the Los Angeles Dodgers. Somehow, no matter how much I wish it to be, it hasn't happened. Maybe there's a lesson in there somewhere.
Seriously, what possible influence would my wishes have on the realities on the ground in Iraq? I know what you're implying, that because I am not a cheerleader, I am rooting for the terrorists. That strawman died a long time ago.
Why is it so hard for some to believe that you can be pro-USA and against the war? For the record, I think when all is said and done in Iraq we will have weakened our standing the world and strenghtened that of our Iranian enemies. I hope that doesn't turn out to be the case but sadly I think that's the most likely outcome. And guess what? Right or wrong, what I think won't have a thing to do with the ultimate outcome here. Policy, not cheerleading is what matters and the policy here is flawed.
Seriously, what possible influence would my wishes have on the realities on the ground in Iraq? I know what you're implying, that because I am not a cheerleader, I am rooting for the terrorists. That strawman died a long time ago.
Why is it so hard for some to believe that you can be pro-USA and against the war? For the record, I think when all is said and done in Iraq we will have weakened our standing the world and strenghtened that of our Iranian enemies. I hope that doesn't turn out to be the case but sadly I think that's the most likely outcome. And guess what? Right or wrong, what I think won't have a thing to do with the ultimate outcome here. Policy, not cheerleading is what matters and the policy here is flawed.
Posted by: nick f at May 25, 2006 05:00 PM (vgzEN)
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But nick,
Your original statement is not really reflected in your last. The fact that you cast doubt on positive developments says that you probably do not want the positive ones to be so. It goes against your POV and that just doesn't work for you.
Your original statement is not really reflected in your last. The fact that you cast doubt on positive developments says that you probably do not want the positive ones to be so. It goes against your POV and that just doesn't work for you.
Posted by: Specter at May 25, 2006 06:14 PM (ybfXM)
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Sure it does. Cheerleading only helps you, it does nothing for Iraq or Iraqis. CY uses this quote by the Iraqi PM to attack war critics. I merely pointed out the fact that we once listened to another Iraqi who promised things that turned out very differently than we were lead to believe. An evangelical faith in forward looking statements is what got us into this mess to begin with. Maybe we can learn from that.
Posted by: nick f at May 26, 2006 11:02 AM (vgzEN)
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Specter writes:
" The fact that you cast doubt on positive developments says that you probably do not want the positive ones to be so."
Uh? No, it doesn't. It says nothing about my desired outcome.
" The fact that you cast doubt on positive developments says that you probably do not want the positive ones to be so."
Uh? No, it doesn't. It says nothing about my desired outcome.
Posted by: nick f at May 26, 2006 11:10 AM (vgzEN)
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Winning more hearts and minds. This one just reported by the US military:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060531/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_women_killed_7
Assume the situation was reversed, and the U.S.A. was being occupied by trigger happy troops. If someone handed you an IED, a shovel and a cellphone, What the hell would you do..?
hog
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060531/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_women_killed_7
Assume the situation was reversed, and the U.S.A. was being occupied by trigger happy troops. If someone handed you an IED, a shovel and a cellphone, What the hell would you do..?
hog
Posted by: hogwild at May 31, 2006 03:50 PM (hj9lA)
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Winning more hearts and minds. This one just reported by the US military:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060531/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_women_killed_7
Assume the situation was reversed, and the U.S.A. was being occupied by trigger happy troops. If someone handed you an IED, a shovel and a cellphone, What the hell would you do..?
You mean, if another nation came in and deposed a dictator who had been killing our people with chemical weapons, starvation, bullets and power drills when they weren't busy raping our daughters, wives, and mothers? And after they deposed this dictator, this nation tried to provide security so that we could build a democracy and experience freedom--true freedom--for the first time?
I'm guessing I'd react by joining whatever local militia, ragtag homeguard army unit or police force that would have me and give me a gun, and do my very best to kill the people who were taking my chance at freedom away.
If I was good at my job, perhaps those soldiers who have been fighting and dying in my stead might be a bit less jumpy and prone to firing at a vehicle bearing down on their position at a high rate of speed, or perhaps, those soldiers wouldn't even be there, because we decided we would fight for our country, instead of against it.
If I did have a guy try to give me an IED and a shovel and a cell phone, I'd probably split his skull with the shovel and use the cell phone to call the police to report the IED.
But that's what I would do.
I guess you had something else in mind.
Winning more hearts and minds. This one just reported by the US military:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060531/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_women_killed_7
Assume the situation was reversed, and the U.S.A. was being occupied by trigger happy troops. If someone handed you an IED, a shovel and a cellphone, What the hell would you do..?
You mean, if another nation came in and deposed a dictator who had been killing our people with chemical weapons, starvation, bullets and power drills when they weren't busy raping our daughters, wives, and mothers? And after they deposed this dictator, this nation tried to provide security so that we could build a democracy and experience freedom--true freedom--for the first time?
I'm guessing I'd react by joining whatever local militia, ragtag homeguard army unit or police force that would have me and give me a gun, and do my very best to kill the people who were taking my chance at freedom away.
If I was good at my job, perhaps those soldiers who have been fighting and dying in my stead might be a bit less jumpy and prone to firing at a vehicle bearing down on their position at a high rate of speed, or perhaps, those soldiers wouldn't even be there, because we decided we would fight for our country, instead of against it.
If I did have a guy try to give me an IED and a shovel and a cell phone, I'd probably split his skull with the shovel and use the cell phone to call the police to report the IED.
But that's what I would do.
I guess you had something else in mind.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at May 31, 2006 04:37 PM (0fZB6)
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