No Patriot
I can't wait to see what Chris Matthews will say about this:
I DON'T SUPPORT our troops. This is a particularly difficult opinion to have, especially if you are the kind of person who likes to put bumper stickers on his car. Supporting the troops is a position that even Calvin is unwilling to urinate on. I'm sure I'd like the troops. They seem gutsy, young and up for anything. If you're wandering into a recruiter's office and signing up for eight years of unknown danger, I want to hang with you in Vegas. And I've got no problem with other people — the ones who were for the Iraq war — supporting the troops. If you think invading Iraq was a good idea, then by all means, support away. Load up on those patriotic magnets and bracelets and other trinkets the Chinese are making money off of. But I'm not for the war. And being against the war and saying you support the troops is one of the wussiest positions the pacifists have ever taken — and they're wussy by definition. It's as if the one lesson they took away from Vietnam wasn't to avoid foreign conflicts with no pressing national interest but to remember to throw a parade afterward.
I don't think I need to comment on this, other than to say it will be interesting to see which liberals defend Klein's exposure of the dirty little secret so many of them carry in their hearts. Coward. Traitor. Liberal. But I repeat myself...
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 02:58 PM
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As repugnant as Stein's stance is, at least he doesn't pretend to support the troops while denigrating their mission, their leadership, and even their ability to volunteer rather than be coerced into serving. Most antiwar types say "we support our troops" and then make it clear that they believe they are dying in vain- which isn't exactly support.
Posted by: Rob at January 24, 2006 03:16 PM (BFtAQ)
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person holding that sign should be ashamed of herself
Posted by: mynewsbot at January 24, 2006 04:31 PM (xJMI0)
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Like the contemptible little weasel that he is, Stein is trying to have it both ways. He puffs out his scrawny chest and declares he's not afraid to stand firm against the idiot masses by admitting that like all liberals, he most definitely does not support the troops. At the same time, he keeps pretending that he does support them, by wanting them to have shorter deployments, better pensions, etc. etc.
Posted by: Van Helsing at January 24, 2006 04:54 PM (h/PtQ)
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Thank you for bringing to light the true nature of liberals.
Posted by: brando at January 24, 2006 05:08 PM (GTNT6)
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I hope Joel gets a LOT of play throughout the media. This is the real thinking of today's version of a liberal, rather than the mealy-mouthed, half-hearted BS they usually spout. Let mainstream American hear it.
Posted by: Stratego at January 24, 2006 06:58 PM (wZLWV)
Posted by: Specter at January 25, 2006 09:27 AM (ybfXM)
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We support our troops when they shoot demonstrators.
Posted by: Rurik at January 25, 2006 05:13 PM (8lx0N)
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Sorry.
That should have read Timothy McVeigh.
Representative of conservatives as these clowns you chose are of liberals?
That should have read Timothy McVeigh.
Representative of conservatives as these clowns you chose are of liberals?
Posted by: ArthurStone at January 25, 2006 07:10 PM (9wvLS)
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huh?
Posted by: Specter at January 25, 2006 09:23 PM (ybfXM)
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Specter -
What Artie was trying to say was that Timothy McVeigh was a Republican and that he is probably no more representative of all Republicans than are some Democrats representative of all Democrats.
Joel Stein may not be representative of all Democrats, but that is really meaningless. He does represent some Dems - just as McVeigh may have represented some Republicans.
Joel Stein does not represent all Democrats, but far too many Democrats embrace his anti-war and anti-troops position.
Hugh Hewitt really ripped him a wide new @$$hole in a radio interview. In case anyone has not yet listened to that interview, you can access it HERE.
What Artie was trying to say was that Timothy McVeigh was a Republican and that he is probably no more representative of all Republicans than are some Democrats representative of all Democrats.
Joel Stein may not be representative of all Democrats, but that is really meaningless. He does represent some Dems - just as McVeigh may have represented some Republicans.
Joel Stein does not represent all Democrats, but far too many Democrats embrace his anti-war and anti-troops position.
Hugh Hewitt really ripped him a wide new @$$hole in a radio interview. In case anyone has not yet listened to that interview, you can access it HERE.
Posted by: Retired Spy at January 25, 2006 09:34 PM (BRgB4)
Posted by: Fat Bastard at January 26, 2006 02:30 PM (n2Agn)
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Lighten up a bit, FB. It was sarcasm.
Posted by: Retired Spy at January 26, 2006 02:42 PM (BRgB4)
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I'm just quaking in my boots...
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at January 26, 2006 02:42 PM (g5Nba)
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No, it's not, Spy, and you damned well know it. "Liberals" have been demonized by the right as 'traitors;' those who think this war was a fools errands are 'traitors.'
CY, I don't really give a shit about whether you're quaking in your boots or pissing in them.
But I still say you wouldn't say that shit to this so-called "liberal's" face.
Not more than once.
CY, I don't really give a shit about whether you're quaking in your boots or pissing in them.
But I still say you wouldn't say that shit to this so-called "liberal's" face.
Not more than once.
Posted by: Fat Bastard at January 26, 2006 04:21 PM (n2Agn)
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What are you... five? Gonna start talking about "Mamas" next? Puh-lease.
I'm sure you're all big and bad and scary, FB, but I'm certainly not impressed by your intellectual capabilites, nor whatever weak threats of physical violence you an come up with.
I'm not sorry if my words stings a little. Perhaps you should be talking with Moore and Murta and other liberal weasels like Stein, so that the bin Ladens of their world don't quote them. Of course, that would require a bit more intellectual courage than you have, and that is why you resort to playground threats.
I'm sure you're all big and bad and scary, FB, but I'm certainly not impressed by your intellectual capabilites, nor whatever weak threats of physical violence you an come up with.
I'm not sorry if my words stings a little. Perhaps you should be talking with Moore and Murta and other liberal weasels like Stein, so that the bin Ladens of their world don't quote them. Of course, that would require a bit more intellectual courage than you have, and that is why you resort to playground threats.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at January 26, 2006 04:40 PM (g5Nba)
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Folks, FB threw an absolute hissy fit after my last response, apparently quivering with rage.
As we've noted in the past, he has problems discussing things like an adult, and so he left a tirade that while long on single syllable words, was quite short of intellectual exertion.
I enjoyed keeping him around as amusing cautionary tale, but he's now worn out his welcome, and has been banned.
Expect him to pop up a few times more, but I can delete and ban another IP in a lot less time than it takes him to generate more bile. Sooner or later, it will sink in.
Sorry to ruin everyone’s fun.
As we've noted in the past, he has problems discussing things like an adult, and so he left a tirade that while long on single syllable words, was quite short of intellectual exertion.
I enjoyed keeping him around as amusing cautionary tale, but he's now worn out his welcome, and has been banned.
Expect him to pop up a few times more, but I can delete and ban another IP in a lot less time than it takes him to generate more bile. Sooner or later, it will sink in.
Sorry to ruin everyone’s fun.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at January 26, 2006 06:14 PM (0fZB6)
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I was all ready to get all nit-picky and point out that the demonstrator is almost certainly a commie rather than a liberal, until FB decided to throw a fit, so: Liberals have a long record of supporting the right of leftists to silence conservatives, so I don't have much patience with liberals either.
Posted by: pst314 at January 29, 2006 12:14 PM (7cTig)
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hey,iran is so powerful,i suggest no fuckin bug tries to approach them.they have a civilized nation that never look at nuclear energy as a bomb or whatever else these supersticious westerners just dream in their dreams.that is all a political game to ban iran of having peaceful nuclear energy.whhhhhyy nobody tries to blame israel that has stored bulk of bombs in their arsenals??????this is the essence of inhumanity i say and nothing else...gary/germany
Posted by: gary at January 30, 2006 11:22 PM (x/eGT)
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A pity FB was banned, because I've said such words in the face of a liberal before.
More than once.
How typical of a liberal to cry for freedom of expression until that same freedom is used to insult them -- and then they resort to violence to stop it.
Thankfully, when that time comes, they'll discover that my concealed weapons permit trumps their anti-gun stance. (Hint: never bring brass-knuckles to a gun fight, Sarah Brady fans).
More than once.
How typical of a liberal to cry for freedom of expression until that same freedom is used to insult them -- and then they resort to violence to stop it.
Thankfully, when that time comes, they'll discover that my concealed weapons permit trumps their anti-gun stance. (Hint: never bring brass-knuckles to a gun fight, Sarah Brady fans).
Posted by: Atticus_NC at January 31, 2006 06:22 AM (3lxJi)
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