Confederate Yankee
March 08, 2007
Left Behind
As House Democrats trumpet the release of their "son of 'Slow Bleed'" legislation to evict American forces from the Iraq War, Rep. David Obey, D-Wis was credited with an interesting set of pull quotes in one too-telling Associated Press paragraph:
Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., and chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, said the proposal would bring an "orderly and responsible close" to American participation in what he called an Iraqi "civil war."
Like the larger Democrat-led effort to lose the war, this statement avoids mentioning—purposefully, in my estimation—that the proposed election-time retreat would end just
American involvement in the war. The Democrats refuse to embrace the consequences of such a retreat.
It is expected that the power vacuum left by a Democrat-forced American military retreat from Iraq would be filled by foreign nations fueling a sectarian war in Iraq that would be both civil and proxy in nature. Saudi Arabia has made clear their intention to provide military and financial resources to Iraq's Sunni minority to hopefully keep their co-religionists from being "ethnically cleansed," while Iran would continue or increase its military and financial support of Shia factions in hopes of gaining a sphere of influence over oil-rich southern Iraq.
The end result of the Democrat plan of defeat would be a war-torn landscape not too dissimilar to the
Bosnian-Croatian-Serbian War, writ large.
A repeat of events like the
Srebrenica massacre are possible in Iraq's future if Democrats have their way.
Democrats, of course, know this, but simply seem to find political games in America far more important than the regional destabilization and projected increase in civilian deaths their plan for defeat would bring.
Democrats claim to care about our troops, which they do, when it’s politically convenient and they’re fresh out of spit.
Sadly, the millions of Iraqi
civilians that would suffer as a result of their plan for defeat don't matter nearly as much to Democrat politicians.
Iraqi children won't send out important action alerts over frappacinos, or fund presidential campaigns in either America. It isn't
their grandchildren that will suffer and die if we leave before the job is done.
The Democrats won't mention the cost of pandering to their radical base.
Apparently the one thing too shameful to discuss is the legacy they would leave behind.
Update: Pretty good analysis,
Mr Dorkage:
People here will tell you they are mostly afraid of one thing-that we will leave soon, like we have since Vietnam, Somalia, etc., and that they will then be at the mercy of the terrorists who seep in from Iran, Syria, Egypt, and Saudia Arabia. A self-fulfilling circle, helped out vastly by our 'anti-war' citizens back home, who ironically enable wars as this by forcing constant US retreats through our political process. People here - real people, not 'Jamil Husseins' - want us here to give them time to reform their society.
I speculate this is one of the reasons I observed such high morale in our soldiers here. They are wanted here, unlike, say, in San Francisco. But, I digress.
Update: Democrat plan is "
failure at any cost." Ouch.
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The troops themselves have a dim view of Iraq:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003501934_militarypoll30.html
65% of Iraqis favored an immediate pullout as of last September:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601721.html
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 08, 2007 01:01 PM (aLvFF)
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"Sadly, the millions of Iraqi civilians that would suffer as a result of their plan for defeat don't matter nearly as much to Democrat politicians."
Because they can't vote here.
Posted by: TexasRainmaker at March 08, 2007 01:05 PM (APIED)
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Lex, do you actually read the links you provide to see if say if they support what you contend?
The Seattle Times article (learn some basic HTML, would you?) does not say anything about the troops having a "dim view of Iraq," at all. What is does say is that they aren't happy with how Bush is handling the war.
If you actually talked to some soldiers instead of relying on the media to decide your news for you, you would find out that many of those unhappy with Bush are unahppy becuase Bush is not letting them be agressive enough in their ROE.
You'll also note that about half the soldiers surveyed felt we needed to increase troop strength, and only 13% were in favor of having no military presence (you know, the "defeat and retreat" Democrat plan).
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at March 08, 2007 01:25 PM (g5Nba)
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CY: "Lex, do you actually read the links you provide to see if say if they support what you contend?"
I contended, "The troops themselves have a dim view of Iraq", and the title of the article I linked to is in fact "Poll of military finds dimmer view of Iraq war". Is that clear enough?
Actually this is the poll I was originally searching for:
"An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year,"
http://www.zogby.com/NEWS/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
If the soldiers want to come home, and the Iraqis want us to leave, we ought to leave.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 08, 2007 01:57 PM (aLvFF)
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Lex, I don't honestly know whether to laugh, or cry. Your defense of an article that doesn't support what you claim it said, is that the headline writer said what you agree with? Why, I guess we can just disregard the content or the context, and focus on headlines written by poorly paid and harried staffers from now on.
Here's a little free advice, Lex: the newspapers don't provide you with the full story, and many news accounts are only loosely based on facts. If you want to know what American soldiers and Iraqi civilains think, ask American and Iraqi civilians.
Don't hire a polling company (especially one as biased as Zogby) to craft a carefully worded poll, to ask questions purposefully designed to guide the respondants answers. Don't take those designed and guided answers to a reporter with an agenda, who will further craft and edit those responses to what the reporter thinks their story should say. If you'd read your own sources, you'd see that your Zogby claim (An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year") is in almost direct conflict with your Seattle-I-agree-with-the-headline-but-not-the-content story, where only 13% think we should exit. Why do I even bother, when you do such a great job debunking yourself?
IF you want to know what is going on: Talk to the soldiers. Listen to the civilains.
Michael Yon wrote just a few days ago about how high morale was among our soldiers. He should know. He lives, sleeps, bleeds, and even on rare occasions fights beside our soldiers in Iraq, something Zogby has never done.
Pat Dollard, Chris Muir, Michelle Malkin, Bryan Preston, Brian Williams of NBC News, Michael Fumento, Bill Roggio, and virtually every one else who has actually taken the time to step out of the Green Zone in teh last few months have reported much the same thing. The soldiers and airmen I've talked to in person and online also want to complete the mission.
You can rely on polls Lex, or you can actually listen to the people the polls claim to represent.
That dispensed with, I note you haven't even attempted to challenge that Democrat's plan to abandon Iraq's civilains. You seem much more comfortable changing the subject than facing the reality of what a retreat really means for the Iraqi people.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at March 08, 2007 02:47 PM (g5Nba)
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CY: You are taking Michelle Malkin and her ilk's word over Zogby and Seattle Times. IMO you are hearing what you want to hear, and calling everything else bias.
The Seattle Times headline is accurate. The troops poll much less enthusiastic about Iraq than they did previously. That is a dimming of expectations all right.
"I note you haven't even attempted to challenge that Democrat's plan to abandon Iraq's civilains."
I said, "65% of Iraqis favored an immediate pullout as of last September" and included a link. If the Iraqis want us to leave, then we don't owe it to them to stay.
The 13% you referred to in the Seattle Times poll said we should have no troops there right now, the 72% from Zogby said we should leave within a year. Those aren't necessarily contradictory.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 08, 2007 03:09 PM (aLvFF)
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Lex, I'm citing people who have spent time on the ground with the troops in Iraq, some in many areas of Iraq, over extended lengths of time, versus stateside bureau reporters and pollsters that have never been to Iraq, and yet you have the gall to refer to them as "ilk?" That says tons more about you and what you are willing to buy to support your own preconcieved notions than it does about them.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at March 08, 2007 03:31 PM (g5Nba)
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Lex, you're still avoiding the point:
Should we leave Iraq at this point, it becomes a killing field. Sunni, Shiite, Kurd, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, you name it, they'll all be fighting over the scraps.
The total casualties will be measured in the *millions*. The entire region may come apart, with Israel, the Gulf oil states, Afghanistan and Pakistan joining in because of "regional security interests." The Democrats know that this will happen, but their response is to do it anyway because it politically benefits them in the short term.
I cannot put it any more succinctly than this: if we leave Iraq now, millions will die.
Posted by: Jared at March 08, 2007 03:47 PM (4xUWs)
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CY: I can give you plenty of names of people who went to Iraq and wrote the opposite of what the folks you cited wrote. Steve Fainaru is one off the top of my head.
"you have the gall to refer to them as 'ilk?'"
'Ilk' literally means 'kind of person'. It's not pejorative.
Jared: please read the recent interview Hugh Hewitt did with retired General William Odom, who ran the NSA under Reagan. I can't begin to do justice to what he says there.
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/Transcript_Page.aspx?ContentGuid=d7f52e21-cf46-4115-b397-ed1dc70fcdab
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 08, 2007 04:06 PM (aLvFF)
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The Seattle Times is the "moderate" left wing newspaper in Seattle. They have a definite agenda against the war and their "news" stories and editorials show little, if any, balance in reporting events from Iraq.
As a matter of fact, you have to read Malikin "and her ilk" just to balance out reading the Times or the Seattle-PI.
Posted by: SouthernRoots at March 08, 2007 07:25 PM (EsOdX)
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Trackbacked by The Thunder Run - Web Reconnaissance for 03/08/2007
A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention.
Posted by: David M at March 09, 2007 10:33 AM (6+obf)
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Lex, your ideas on war have already been tried; they left the blood of 2 million Cambodians and 1 million Vietnamese on your hands. How much more before even you drown in it?
Posted by: SDN at March 09, 2007 08:17 PM (+snj1)
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The true credit for any defeat in Iraq must be given to Ted Kennedy, he just had others follow the master plan he put together for our withdraw from Vietnam. Please let them know we fully expect a member of our government to set up a "Watch Dog Over Sight" Team, on each and every chopper that pulls the last US Marine out of the crowd. May the CIA remember to get all those who have spied on the enemy for us out before the tanks push down the gate, and at least get all the computer files out as they leave, in Vietnam files like this made "Things to do" list for winner.I hope CNN will be able to strike a deal with who ever runs a flag up the pole,I am sure the free press will not be allowed to stay to report on the national healing in progress. The MSM will flush all the after action reports down the drain and refocus our attention to who they think we need to elect in 08, clean up the last of George Bushs war.
Posted by: George Samek, CW-3 US Army Retired at March 10, 2007 04:21 PM (CMcmd)
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U.S. Halts Imaginary Cubans in Security Drill
This goes along with the Bush Adminstration's simulated immigration enforcement of the U.S./Mexican border quite well.
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Congo Uranium Arrests
What would Joe Wilson do?
The Democratic Republic of Congo's top atomic energy official is being held over allegations of uranium smuggling.
Atomic energy centre director Fortunat Lumu and an aide have been questioned since their arrest on Tuesday.
A large quantity of uranium is reported to have gone missing in recent years, although state prosecutor Tshimanga Mukeba did not reveal any figures.
He told the BBC an "important quantity" of uranium was taken from the nuclear centre and they were investigating.
DR Congo's daily newspaper Le Phare reported that more than 100 bars of uranium as well as an unknown quantity of uranium contained in helmet-shaped cases, had disappeared from the nuclear centre in Kinshasa as part of a vast trafficking of the material going back years.
But the BBC's Kinshasa correspondent, Arnaud Zajtman, says that as of yet, no evidence has been made public to support the allegations made by the newspaper.
It would be very intersting to know just how far back "years" entails, and who received the missing uranium. My completely unsubstantiated guess is that it ended up somewhere warm and sandy.
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Breaking: Suspicious Package Found on White House Grounds
At least that is the screamer running across the top of this ABC News article at the moment. Curiously, this screamer is absent on the front page.
Nothing yet from CNN or Fox News. Will update as info comes in, but note that in the past, very little has come from similiar scares, and chucking a box over the fence isn't quite a credible threat in most instances.
Update: Bad Info? The screamer (above) was pulled within seconds of this post going up. Apparently nothing to see here, move along...
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Was it a duffel bag with the missing Billions lost in Iraq?
Posted by: Frederick at March 08, 2007 12:11 PM (2SHkX)
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Probably some Boston cop spotted Ted Kennedy in the Rose Garden.
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March 07, 2007
Patriotic American Suggests Spray-Painting Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall during Anti-War Protest
An IndyMedia poster has suggested bringing spraypaint to deface the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial in Washington, D.C. during an anti-war rally on March 17.
It is not known if Ramsey Clark, Maxine Waters, Cynthia McKinney, Medea Benjamin or the leaders of the eight Islamic organizations
sponsoring the event have any knowledge of these or similar plans by the activists they've attracted, though they are aware of a counter-demonstration by a conglomeration of veterans' groups and concerned citizens called
A Gathering of Eagles, which will be at the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial to protect it from just the kind of attack promoted on IndyMedia.
Cindy Sheehan, who plans on attending the anti-war protest,
derided the veterans as "abused and misused in your war of choice" (referring to Vietnam) and stated that these veterans were "poor misguided, brainwashed and propagandized."
(h/t
antimedia)
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I sure hope they try and the police are busy elsewhere.
Posted by: 1sttofight at March 07, 2007 12:54 PM (9s2fv)
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I am going to be there proudly with my U.S. Navy Veterans Hat and all my ribbons and medals. I pray to the Lord Almighty they don't try to deface our memorials or "spit on me" or my fellow vet's and co-workers that are going to be there with me!!!
Posted by: Faithful Patriot at March 07, 2007 01:32 PM (y67bA)
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I never served, but I will be there to support those that made my Country great. The Capitol Police just stepped back and let these guys spray paint on the Capitol steps, it will be interesting to see what LE does when thousands of people who are steadfast against the defacing of our National Monuments meet those who wish to do so.
Posted by: Web at March 07, 2007 02:07 PM (r74AR)
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Patriotic American Suggests Spray-Painting Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall during Anti-War Protest
Is this your idea of joke? Sounds like your just a PC ideologist looking for attention. PATRIOTIC? Pathetic is more like it.
Posted by: Dan at March 07, 2007 05:08 PM (1Q8ID)
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I can't be there for health reasons but I know there will be people there who are ready, willing and able to do whatever it takes to keep anything from happening to The Wall. I'm not really worried about anything happening to The Wall but I am worried sick about some people I care about ending up in jail for defending it. I linked at
http://www.oldwardogs.us/2007/03/bring_some_pain.html and http://www.smalltownveteran.net/bills_bites/2007/03/bring_some_pain.html.
Posted by: Bill Faith at March 07, 2007 06:22 PM (n7SaI)
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They're just keeping it "Classy" ;->
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 07, 2007 07:36 PM (5OYu4)
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Somebody should spray paint Cindy Sheehan.
Posted by: Zhombre at March 07, 2007 10:23 PM (va09Z)
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Here's a tip: Pack some Kevlar along with the spray paint.
Posted by: Actual at March 08, 2007 06:54 PM (kdh+N)
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Gathering of Eagles, with them in spirit
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/GOE317/petition.html
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Frontline Voices
On Monday, Newsbusters brought us a post about a visit to Iraq by NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams, revealing the following:
Visiting Iraq, NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams learned from Army officers that Iraqis want U.S. forces to remain in their country, from NBC News Baghdad reporter Richard Engel that Al-Sadr's insurgents have stepped down and are counting on pressure from anti-war opponents to provide them with victory, and from retired General and NBC News military analyst Wayne Downey that U.S. troops are proud of their mission. Traveling with Lieutenant General Ray Odierno for stories on his Monday newscast, Williams ran a clip of Army Colonel John Charlton proclaiming that Iraqis “do not want us to leave” and a soundbite from Army Lt. Colonel Charles Ferry who asserted: "The people here are very glad to see us.” Williams marveled: "You just said, 'They don't want us to leave.' That's the tenth time today I've heard that. I've got to go back to the States and do a newscast that every night has another politician or 12 of them saying, 'We have got to get out of that godforsaken place.'
MSNBC.com provides a version of Williams' story as well, closing with LTC Ferry's comments on the discrepancy between what American (mostly Democrat) politicians are saying about retreating in defeat, and the Iraqi civilian claim that they want us to stay and that they are happy we are there.
As for the morale of our soldiers, Micheal Yon noted in his dispatch "
Meanwhile" yesterday (my bold):
There’s a lot of talk back at home that morale among American forces is low here. While writing this, I called Rich Oppel from the New York Times, who is in Baghdad, to ask him how morale looked from his vantage. Rich said that a lot of the soldiers are not happy with the extensions of their tours, something I have heard soldiers complain about also. However, I watch morale very closely. More closely than all else. Low morale in a particular unit can be the result of poor leadership in that unit, or just not getting mail, for instance. But gauging morale is not a simple affair of asking a few soldiers. A person has to live with them across Iraq. Having done so, my opinion is that overall troop morale is good to high. (If their morale could be bottled, it would probably would sell like crack, then be outlawed.)
Brian Williams, Richard Engle and GEN(R) Wayne Downing in Iraq experiencing some "technical dificulties" with their communications gear. Exclusive photo courtesy of Michael Yon, who is staying "just a few tents down" from them.
Iraqi civilians are telling our soldiers that they are happy they are there (something I've noticed not just in Ramadi, but in
Baghdad and elsewhere). Obviously, not everyone is delighted with our presence—the militias, insurgents, terrorists, and criminal gangs in Iraq, and politicians, anti-war activists and many journalists worldwide come to mind—but the average Iraqi knows that the best chance they have of securing peace in their nation
must rely on American forces backing Iraqi forces until the Iraqis alone are capable of providing their own security.
In the meantime, early reports on the Baghdad security operations thus far are
carefully optimistic:
...the Bush administration says the president's decision to send more troops into Iraq is showing some "encouraging signs," though "too early" to call a success.
President Bush listed some of those "encouraging signs" in an address to American veterans.
They include the deployment of additional Iraqi army brigades in Baghdad, lifting restrictions on coalition forces to secure the capital, and rounding up more than 700 Shia extremists and large weapons caches.
The locals appear to be noting the changes as well.
Since us and Iraqi troops made their joint push into Baghdad, streets are getting busier. Stores that were closed down are re-opening and murders are down.
There has even been little resistance in Sadr City.
The last time American troops tried to secure this section of Baghdad they were met by Moqtada al Sadr's Mahdi militia.
"If there's one thing that has jumped out at me, this being the edge of Sadr City, it's been how well we've been received by the people, how friendly a reception we've gotten," said U.S. Army Captain Noll.
U.S. soldiers taking part in a search during Baghdad security operations two weeks ago. Photo courtesy of Michael Yon.
Presently, 21,500 U.S. soldiers are slowly building up in a "surge" to help the Iraqi government's security operations, and the Pentagon may request up to
7,000 more troops as operations expand into al Anbar province. As Brian Williams seemed to note in his broadcast (available at
Hot Air), we can help the Iraqis secure their country, if only
certain politicians would simply stop trying to undermine the effort.
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CY,
Why do you have to be so PC?
Quit being a wimp and explain to your readers why nbc is even bothering to visit these "mercenaries" in Iraq!
Posted by: Dan at March 07, 2007 05:01 PM (1Q8ID)
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When I heard NBC Nightly letting non-insurgent Iraqis speak (I heard this from a different room - I don't watch TV "News" anymore but rather get information from the wire services and then watch the blogs to catch their lies.) and mentioning some small amount of the good news from Iraq I assumed that NBC's news department had had a visit from a share holders committee asking why they were running all enemy propaganda and socialist nonsense. Was it something like that? The fact that they had Brian Williams doing it was even stranger since he always seemed to be on a break when some small bit of good news from Iraq becomes so news worthy that it would be conspicuous to ignore it.
Posted by: Saul Wall at March 07, 2007 07:30 PM (+Y/J2)
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March 06, 2007
New Democrat Plan: Bleed Slower
Thanks be to Allah, for knowing a rat in sheep's clothing when he sees one:
House Democrats are pushing to add billions of dollars to President Bush's $93.4 billion request for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, including $900 million for troops suffering from brain injuries and post-traumatic stress disorder.
An additional $2.5 billion would go to strengthen training and readiness for forces not deployed in war zones, and $1.4 billion would go to address housing allowance shortfalls.
At the same time, the Pentagon said Tuesday it needs about $1 billion more to support Bush's decision to send 21,500 additional combat troops to Iraq. It also said it has decided against using the pending supplemental bill to procure combat and cargo aircraft, few if any of which could have been built in time to affect the war.
The $1 billion would support at least 4,000 additional support troops, Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England told the House Budget Committee. Up to a total of 7,000 support troops might needed, England said.
The Democratic add-ons for military health care, readiness and mine-resistant vehicles are aimed in part at making the bill more attractive to lawmakers, including Republicans who might be considering voting against the measure over language that would curb deployments of troops to Iraq who have had insufficient rest or training or who already had served there for more than a year.
Democrats are, as
Allah notes, attempting to craft a "poison pill" of a bill:
The proposed compromise is a diluted version of Murtha’s slow bleed except instead of funding being cut off if troops are deployed without having met certain readiness levels, Bush would have the option of waiving the necessary certifications — as long as he does so publicly. They’re willing to continue paying for the war they hate, in other words; they just want to keep Bush’s face on the mission and make sure KIAs going forward can be blamed on inadequate training (a la Murtha blaming Haditha on “fatigue”) instead of enemy action.
Democrats aren't any less willing to lose the war than they were before, they're just more craven in their methods.
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There's a story about a prison break in Mosul covered by Reuters. Its odd that such a story is only being covered by one news outlet. You would think a battalion-sized insurgent attack led by the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq that frees over 100 prisoners would get more play.
Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at March 07, 2007 08:42 AM (oC8nQ)
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Michael Yon: Meanwhile
Why actually learning about the war from those who are there, matters:
With the odometer running over many embeds, Mellinger has taken me about 4,000 miles (total) up and down Iraqi roads, visiting units from north to south, east to west, showing that the military truly opens their doors to writers who will stick it out. They don’t even have to like you: my fights with the Army are well-known, yet they continue to open their doors. There’s a lesson in there. I wrote that Iraq was in a civil war shortly after covering the first elections. I wrote about commanders who did poorly, and ISF units that couldn’t shoot straight, and I wrote about the veneer of victory in Afghanistan cracking under the weight of a poppy-fueled Taliban resurgence. Yet they still let me in.
It’s a reminder of why I am so proud of my country, despite our many problems. It’s also a caution about why we must stick with our people who have been mostly abandoned at war. I understand the position of the journalists. Especially the ones who get blown up or shot at fairly regularly, but the informed interest of ordinary Americans is critical to the outcome of this war. And the truth is that our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, most of whom rarely (if ever) see a writer, are abandoned by default.
As always with Yon's dispatches,
read the whole thing.
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Meanwhile, AP's latest 'analysis' seems to think that WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! I am so tired of MSM reporting from Iraq. Michael Yon is like the voice of reason compared to these jokers.
Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at March 06, 2007 04:56 PM (oC8nQ)
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Final Deep Thought on The Libby Conviction, Before I Dismiss It For Eternity For The Relatively Minor Case That It Is
Thank God Scooter Libby was convicted. If he been acquitted, an irate Jane Hamsher would have depleted the global supply of black ink for months.
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I'm curious. Are you being disingenuous by writing "Libby conviction" and don't mean to include Libby sentencing, any Libby appeals, or a possible Libby Supreme Court Consideration or a possible Libby pardon?
I don't think the story is over by a long shot. Who knows, in addition to any of the possible to probable events I mentioned above, there might actually be some new revelations of one type or another.
But if you do mean to say 'never means never' about the whole still evolving story, will you let the fly on your wall put up a few posts about you scratching the itches?
Posted by: Dusty at March 06, 2007 05:14 PM (GJLeQ)
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If there's any "proportionality" in the sentencing, he'll get about a $2,000 fine and be picking up litter for a week. Compared to Sandy Burglar, who like did a real crime involving national security, Libby spit on the sidewalk.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 06, 2007 05:28 PM (5OYu4)
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Barring anything earth-shattering, Dusty, I don't intend to write about Scootergate anymore. Out of more than 1750 entries, his name has appeared on the pages of CY a grand total of 19 times, and most of those in passing. I've just never much cared about this minor case. Of course, the left think it's huge, but as much as they've hyped it, it isn't that big of a deal to most folks.
Most people don't know who Libby was, and frankly don't see what the big deal is. I know who he is, can sort of understand why some people care, but frankly, could never get into it.
sorry.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at March 06, 2007 06:05 PM (HcgFD)
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CY - there are other sites that specialize in Plame, such as Just One Minute. The fact is that the case shows an absolute in the fact that our judicial system is corrupt at it's foundation. We have prosecutors that have run wild with power (i.e. Nifong, Earle, Fitzpatrick, etc.) and are not being held to reasonable ethical standards. We, as a country, are seeing further degradation of our rights in this case. It is a downward spiral that will lead...well...who knows where.
If you are interested in deeper analysis of the case visit JOM. The owner of the site, Tom Maguire, also links to many other sites that have covered this fiasco in detail.
Bottom line - it is a sad day for the American judicial system.
Posted by: Specter at March 06, 2007 09:29 PM (ybfXM)
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You're dropping the lede. It's not the case... it's what the case represents and covers up.
Go back to Wilson's 1999 trip and see all the countries he said were trading uranium (if you have time, check out his export/investment company there), then see who he worked with, how many of those were on the Kerry campaign and donors (including Priest's hubby, another huge story), and McCarthy (and her hubby as well, huge story), who got her her job, the list of those who covered Africa along with her, which docs disappeared a la Sandy and who authored some of them... and believe it or not, Rockefeller's name comes up a lot as well. Oh and that little Able Danger thing.
Then you can view EPIC, VIPS conferences from before this came up... and you will see how huge this is.
This was/is a coup. No black helicopters or tinfoil, seriously. I started a graph on this and followed everything along with blogs like Free Republic, Stratasphere, Just One Minute and many others.
I'm shocked that you never looked deeper, you're so thorough.
I totally agree re: Jane Hamster, sheesh.
Posted by: Ali at March 07, 2007 11:02 AM (hDlfX)
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Bin Laden Brother-in-Law Killed
Not new, but new to me.
Jamal Khalifa, Osama bin Laden’s brother-in-law and mercenary recruited, was instrumental in recruitirg more than 1,000 young Filipino Muslims, including Abdurajak Abubakar Janjalani, to the Afghanistan jihad against the former Soviet Union was killed in Madagascar recently.
Reports said Khalifa was shot dead by unidentified gunmen in Madagascar. Agence France-Presse quoted Khalifa’s brother as telling the Dubai-based Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya television, that a gang of 25 to 30 people raided Khalifa’s room. Khalifa, who traded in gems, “was killed in cold blood while sleeping in his room" his brother, Malek, said.
There doesn't seem to be any evidence that Khalifa had recent contact with bin Laden, or that the death was necessarily anything other than crime-related.
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20 to 30 people?
Well, it probably wasn't us in that case.
Posted by: Jeff at March 06, 2007 03:19 PM (yiMNP)
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That jihadi retirement program really sucks...
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Libby Verdict to be Delivered at Noon
Breaking.
Details to follow.
Update: Guilty on
four of five counts:
Former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby has been found guilty on four of five counts in his perjury and obstruction of justice trial.
Libby, 56, faces a maximum sentence of 25 years in prison and a fine of $1 million.
Libby was convicted of:
- obstruction of justice when he intentionally deceived a grand jury investigating the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame;
- making a false statement by intentionally lying to FBI agents about a conversation with NBC newsman Tim Russert;
- perjury when he lied in court about his conversation with Russert;
- a second count of perjury when he lied in court about conversations with other reporters.
Jurors cleared him of a second count of making a false statement relating to a conversation he had with Matt Cooper of Time magazine.
I fully expect Tom Maguire to have an analysis posted at
Just One Minute.
The netroots will assuredly go nuts over this for
days.
Hot Air is already all over it.
Update: How long do you think it will be before Bush pardons Libby? Will he wait for the appeals process to exhaust itself, will he sign off as he leaves office in 2009?
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I expect Bush to wait for the appeals process and pardon Libby, if necessary, near the end of his term, if only to avoid the howls from the BDS crowd.
Apparently one of the jurors, a reporter no less, is saying the jury perceived Libby to be the scapegoat. So why convict him?
Posted by: Retread at March 06, 2007 02:06 PM (mtsTe)
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Just because he is a scapegoat, doesn't mean he's not guilty of said charges. Merely that he is taking the brunt of the blame while others, whose crimes were perhaps worse, skate free for lack of evidence.
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It depends entirely on which one of the following you find more offensive, Bush pardoning Libby or Fitzgerald cutting a deal for another fishing expedition.
In all seriousness, one of the two will happen before Bush leaves office. It may happen before the end of the year.
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No Room for Success
At least that is what we find via memeorandum.com, as a poster using the pseudonym "Chris in Paris writes on liberal Americablog:
Nine US troops killed in explosions during combat, just on the heels of 28 Iraqis killed Monday in yet another round of bombings. Yesterday I heard plenty of chatter from the pro-war crowd who talked about the great successes of the latest campaign but I've been unable to see a change and hear of the same old bloody mess day after day. How much blood is enough for the pro-war crowd?
Shaun Mullen at
The Moderate Voice writes:
The downtick in stories in the prints, on TV and online about violence in Baghdad is encouraging and would seem to be a result of the onset of Operation Imposing Law, the so-called “surge” security crackdown in the capital.
But the relative calm is illusory. Anti-American cleric Moqtada Al-Sadr has withdrawn to Iran and his Mahdi Army and ethnic cleansing squads have withdrawn into the shadows, and I suspect that it’s only a matter of time before the surge is declared a success, both cleric and army are heard from again and the downtick is history.
Then there are the tireless cheerleaders like Omar, who blogs at Iraq the Model and has been writing for Pajamas Media. Omar’s latest sighting of the light at the end of the tunnel was dutifully picked up by Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit:
“Violent incidents are still decreasing in number and impact in Baghdad. Yesterday for instance the only reported incident was the abduction of an adviser to the minister of defense by gunmen in western Baghdad. It was less than 24 hours until the security forces succeeded in freeing the abducted general and arresting 4 of his captors.”
It is not my intention to deprecate Omar and Glenn. They mean well and I too want the security crackdown to succeed. But I winced when I read Omar’s words because I knew that it was only a matter of time before the calm was shattered.
In fact, it was less than 12 hours after he posted his wishful thinking that a suicide car bomber detonated explosives in a book market along busy Mutanabi Street in central Baghdad, killing 28 people and wounding 56 others. (Details here on the blast and deaths of nine U.S. soldiers north of the capital.)
Yes, Baghdad is a big place and the security sweep is currently focused in the Sadr City slum district. Troops cannot be everywhere. But in a war characterized by abysmally poor planning followed by four years of missteps, it is not merely premature to declare that Operation Imposing Law is going well after so short a time, it is folly.
Perhaps I'm reading too much into these comments, but "Chris in Paris" and Shaun Mullen both seem to be purposefully obtuse.
Yes, nine soldiers from Task Force Lighting died in two separate IED attacks north of Baghdad, and 28 Iraqis died Monday, just as 14 more Iraqis died nationwide today. I have little doubt that more Coalition soldiers and Iraqi civilians will die tomorrow, and the day after that. People die in war.
But what "Chris in Paris" either cannot see in the very account he cited, or perhaps prefers not to see, is that not one of the deaths cited over the past two days in Iraq reported by this CNN article came through the once common practice of sectarian death squads kidnapping Iraqi citizens, torturing them, and dumping their bodies in the streets.
Mullen is right to be cautious, but he too, is far more pessimistic than objective, and apparently almost willing to declare any minor setback during the security plan as evidence of failure.
This past Saturday, Arab news broadcasts from Al-Jazeera, Al-Arabiya, Al-Sharqiya, Al-Hurra, Al-Iraqiya, Al-Fourat, Al-Baghdadiya, and Al-Sumariya --eight television stations in all-- did not issue a single account of sectarian kidnappings, torture and murder in Baghdad.
None.
That is not a positive change?
On Sunday, more than a thousand U.S. and Iraqi soldiers swept through Sadr City, home of the Madhi Army, without a single shot being fired in opposition. On that day, just one Baghdadi, an editor of the independent
Al Mashriq newspaper, was killed when a kidnapping attempt failed in what was almost assuredly a targeted attempt, not a random death squad act.
That is not a positive change?
29 members of al Qaeda have been captured across Iraq, including the two brothers of Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq. In the same article they mention that Fuad Ahmed al-Mufraji, an assassination specialist dubbed "arrested the most dangerous man in northern Iraq," was also captured.
This follows on the heels of a battle last week where Iraqi forces
routed an al Qaeda attack on a village in al Anbar, capturing 50 terrorists and killing 80.
These are not a positive changes?
Iraq is not a safe country by any stretch of the imagination, and the high points noted above are perhaps transitory in nature, but they are real, and they do show at least temporary improvements. It is a pity that both critics seem unwilling to weigh these concrete successes equally with setbacks both real and possible.
"Chris in Paris," and Shaun Mullen with him, seem intent on seeing only what they want to see. Are they ideologically immune to any accounts the show the slightest signs of improvement in Iraq?
It seems that like so many opponents of the war, they have far too much emotionally invested in failure.
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A lot of the anti-war crowd point to enemy action as proof that we are not winning. I think that they have confused "winning" with "won"
Posted by: monkeyboy at March 06, 2007 10:24 AM (exWkL)
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Exactly. Lefties like "Chris" see only what they want to see
More importantly, the mainstream media, which is brazenly partisan and anti-war, only tells Chris what he wants to hear.
I.e., they'll put the carbombing on the front page of La Figaro and the NY Times, but they will never tell him about the successful raids, capturing of dozens of terrorists and other signs of progress.
The MSM, and lefties like Chris are actually playing right into the terrorists hands.
The terrorists want the MSM to report the car bombing, and they want defeatist leftwingers like Chris to use that propaganda to make an anti-war statement.
In his own way, Chris was indirectly the cause of those car bombings.
Car bombing a market crowded with women and children is not a sign of strategic strength. Its a propaganda tool to get us to pull out. Nothing more nothing less.
When Chris calls for the US to do exactly what the jihadis want the US to do, he is simply acting as a mouthpiece for al qaeda, even if his intentions may be (thats a big "MAY") in the right place.
Posted by: TMF at March 06, 2007 10:28 AM (+BgNZ)
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I am tired of hearing about how the 'death squads' are laying low and will just pop up once the surge is over. We need to have faith that the Iraqi people will figure out that once they can rely on the Iraqi Army and Police to protect them, they will realize death squads aren't necessary for protection. Security is security, but I'm hoping the Iraqis will choose the security that doensn't involve cleaning up your neighbor's body out of the street every morning.
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Trackbacked by The Thunder Run - Web Reconnaissance for 03/06/2007
A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention.
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She Just Can't Help It
Ann Coulter just labeled John Edwards' campaign manager a terrorist supporter.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO DIVERT BONIOR FROM HIS PRINCIPAL PASTIME WHICH IS FRONTING FOR ARAB TERRORISTS.
I've got a screen capture as well, should the comment disappear.
I suppose it is just a matter of time before Coulter takes a sudden fancy to Kevin Federline.
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She's referring to this: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31497
Posted by: w3 at March 06, 2007 07:16 AM (9TtwK)
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Have you noticed that about half the comments that could possibly be considered to be conservatives are applauding Ann, not the apologists? Maybe some conservatives are getting tired of bringing knives to a gunfight.
And Bonior has been on CAIR's side forever.
Posted by: RRRoark at March 06, 2007 10:35 AM (EfnrW)
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You must put Ann Coulter in context. She is a satrist. That means she says things that are not correct and generally funny. If you want someone to speak with political correctness then do not invite Coulter to the party.
I enjoy her comments and the trouble she causes. Otherwise the world would be dull and gray. I don't care for all her views, but then most people are idiots as far as I am concerned.
Posted by: David Caskey at March 06, 2007 10:48 AM (dTdEN)
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Does anyone reading CY get the feeling, you know when your spine just crawls, that the author here is a huffington wannabe?
Posted by: Can't help but wonder at March 06, 2007 05:27 PM (1Q8ID)
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The Air Bodies
Let's reorder a couple of key paragraphs from this New York Times article to make it more chronologically consistant, and see if you can tell what's missing:
On Sunday night, American forces at a small base in Tape Ahmed Beg, in Kapisa Province, northeast of the capital, Kabul, came under rocket fire at 9 p.m., the United States military said in a statement. When two men with Kalashnikov rifles were spotted entering a compound, the Americans called an airstrike, which ended the engagement, it said. [paragraph 5]
Nine members of a family, including five women and three children, were killed in an American airstrike in central Afghanistan late Sunday during a battle with militants, Afghan officials said Monday. [paragraph 1]
What is obviously missing from this story is the status of the two men with AK-pattern rifles that were the trigger for the airstrike.
Did they somehow survive the strike? Were the killed along with the five women and three children? Why did they retreat to that particular compound? Were they possibly returning to their own homes? Did they vanish into thin air?
As far as these curiously incurious reporters are concerned, that answer appears to be just as good as any.
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I've been getting a kick out of this stuff lately for some reason, not because it's new or anything, but because it's so in your face. For instance, this weekend when I saw the headline:
ATTACK ON US CONVOY LEAVES 16 KILLED
Talk about whoring for hits on a news story.
News stories these days are chaotic, unorganized, and poorly structured, much like everything I write. But unlike me, the writers of these news articles claim to be informed, professional writers, so we can only assume that their writing style is intentional, deliberate, and not without motive.
Posted by: paully at March 06, 2007 01:06 AM (75YCX)
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Collateral Damage
It has been a rough weekend for American forces in Afghanistan. In two separate instances, U.S. forces engaged with Taliban and al Qaeda forces have killed approximately 19 Afghan civilians, according to the U.K. Guardian:
Two incidents involving American forces have left around 19 Afghan civilians dead since yesterday, prompting furious protests against the US and Nato.
In the first incident, up to 10 civilians were killed yesterday as a convoy of US marines fled after being attacked by a suicide bomber in a minivan in eastern Nangarhar province.
Nine Afghan witnesses said US marines had fired indiscriminately on civilian cars and pedestrians as they sped away, the Associated Press reported.
The US military said it was unclear what had happened and militant gunmen may have been to blame for the deaths.
Then today Afghan officials said nine civilians had been killed after a Nato air strike hit a house during a firefight between US forces and militants, killing nine Afghans who lived there.
Civilians die in war. No matter how many precautions we take, no matter how careful we try to be to target only combatants, our enemies purposefully hide among civilians, dress as civilians, and use occupied civilian dwellings as impromptu fortresses.
It is because of this that I have some reservations about the nature of the protests levied again U.S. and NATO forces in the wake of these two incidents. While any civilian life snuffed out by terrorists is worth the same as those killed by NATO forces, few Afghan protests seem to value these deaths equally, or if those protests do exist, they unerringly fail to attract worldwide media attention.
That is odd, considering how this particular media account concluded:
The US-based Human Rights Watch has estimated that more than 100 Afghan civilians died as a result of Nato and coalition assaults in 2006.
A count by the Associated Press, based on reports from Afghan, Nato and coalition officials, puts the overall civilian death toll in 2006 at 834, most from militant attacks.
If the accounts from Human Rights Watch and the Associated Press are close to correct, the Taliban and al Qaeda kill more Afghan civilians than do coalition forces by a ratio of roughly 8-1. Despite this huge disparity, I cannot recall the last time I read a media account where the civilian death toll exacted by these Islamist forces led to widespread protests.
Do Afghan citizens simply not care when their friends and relatives are killed by the Taliban or al Qaeda? I find that rather hard to believe.
Could it be that the same civilians who chant "Death to America! Death to Karzai!" today, do so knowing that they will suffer no retaliatory strikes from Taliban spies in their midst, fearing that if they protested the murders caused by the Islamists, that they would suffer a far worse fate than usually visited by a bullet or bomb? I suspect this is the case to a certain extent, and find it rather uncritical of the professional media not to notice nor report on this discrepancy.
It is a shame that civilians die in war, but equally shameful that the media frames the accounts of what transpired they way they have.
The events around the Nangarhar incident are very much up in the air, but the
Guardian is almost libelous in their purposeful neglect of detail in describing the airstrike on the house in Kapisa.
They state:
...today Afghan officials said nine civilians had been killed after a Nato air strike hit a house during a firefight between US forces and militants, killing nine Afghans who lived there.
The air strike came after militants had fired on a Nato base in Kapisa province, just north of Kabul.
Later a house was hit, killing five women, three boys and a man, said Sayad Mohammad Dawood Hashimmi, Kapisa's deputy governor.
The
Guardian presents the story of this airstrike in such a way as to make it seem like the airstrike may have accidentally hit a house full of civilians.
This is not the truth.
After the rocket attack on the NATO base, armed militants were observed retreating into the Afghan home. In a defensive measure, U.S forces called in a precision strike that leveled the building where the Taliban terrorists had retreated.
It was the Taliban that brought fire down on the "five women, three boys and a man" by using that home as a fighting position. It would be nice for the "professional" journalists at the
Guardian and other news outlets to reveal that fact, but apparently, such facts only get in the way of the story they prefer to tell.
Accuracy, it seems, is also "collateral damage."
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CY, you need to mention prominently in posts like this that when "our enemies purposefully hide among civilians, dress as civilians, and use occupied civilian dwellings as impromptu fortresses", they are committing acts of "perfidy", which is defined as a war crime under the Geneva Conventions. The Conventions also state that individuals and groups committing perfidy ARE NOT entitled to Geneva Convention protections, but may be summarily executed just as pirates and other outlaws are.
Posted by: SDN at March 06, 2007 08:29 PM (TIw0n)
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650,000 Iraqis Have Died, Or...
...the Lancet Study is politically-driven fake news cooked up by a group of anti-war Democrat scientists that should probably be fired for academic fraud.
I called this study
complete and utter crap months ago, but neve thought they'd stoop as far as the article indicates they may have.
Heh.
Allahpundit notes the "perils of using stringers" to conduct reporting.
On that note, it might be worth mentioning that I'll be on
KSFO 560 With Lee Rodgers & Melanie Morgan this morning discussing that other stringer-generated scandal, starring our favorite Iraqi Police Captain that never existed.
You can listen via online streaming at 6:05 PST/9:05 EST at
KSFO 560 via the "listen now" link.
Update: For those of you who might have missed it, the KSFO interview will be replayed on the internet at 1:10PM Eastern time today at
www.ksfo.com (click on LISTEN NOW).
For those of you just coming to this story, I'd recommend that you read the following:
J-Damn
The Jamil Hussein Name Game -- Iraqi General Weighs In
Iraqi General Disputes AP Claim on Jamil Hussein
AP Re-Enters Hurriyah; Is Unable to Find Lost Credibility
AP: The Art of the Dodge
And last but not least:
Hurriyah: Where We Go From Here
According to the Iraqi Interior Ministry spokesman, "Jamil Hussein" never existed, and the Associated Press story of January 4 released by Steven R. Hurst is an apparent fabrication.
The Associated Press is apparently far more interested in burying any story that shows that their Hurriyah reporting was inaccurate, or that they allegedly used a falsified name for a source against their own code of ethics, than they are in transparent or accurate reporting.
Why am I not surprised?
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I just heard them mention it on KSFO. I am so there.
Posted by: Ken S, Fifth String on the Banjo of Life at March 05, 2007 09:09 AM (PvqFn)
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You should also update to mention that the show is rebroadcast on the internet feed four hours later, so it can be heard at about 10:00 PST, 1:00 p.m. EST.
Posted by: Ken S, Fifth String on the Banjo of Life at March 05, 2007 09:18 AM (PvqFn)
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Slight correction - the 'net feed lags a little so the segment starts at 20 after.
Posted by: Ken S, Fifth String on the Banjo of Life at March 05, 2007 09:22 AM (PvqFn)
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That 650K figure was always phony as a $3 bill. Anyone who didn't have their head up their rear knew that. Equally obvious was that it was concocted for political reasons.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 05, 2007 05:18 PM (5OYu4)
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THE AP WILL NEVER APOLOGIZE RE "JAMIL HUSSEIN"
–They will simply DROP the story, as when they dropped Qana, the Red Cross bus ambulance “bombings”, Israeli “attacks” on UNIFIL, or Paliwood
– Stunningly, after proof appeared that Saddam had 500 tons of yellowcake Uranium Oxide in storage when he was invaded (enough for 148 nuclear bombs), the MSM simply DROPPED the “Iraq Had No WMD” stories, with no corrections, no clarifications, apologies, nothing
– They are now hammering on the “We’re Losing” theme
– When they drop a particular story, that means you WON – it’s all you get
– I have not seen them admit to any significant falsehood, no matter how egregious
– E.G., Waiting for the MSM retract their inverted reporting of the US victory in the Vietnam Tet offensive, which they still describe as a defeat
– (Tet 1968, was key because the US and South Vietnam DESTROYED the Viet Cong, leaving the war to the invading regular North Vietnam army. Thereafter, there were no significant populist socialist Vietnamese “resistance freedom fighters” left – only millions of Communist invaders, dying rapidly as the US and South Vietnamese won every significant battle)
– No one nailed the MSM hard enough, then or now, and they continue simplistically falsifying Vietnam as a defeat, with Tet as a “turning point”
Posted by: DemocracyRules at March 05, 2007 10:07 PM (L/SIz)
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Stunningly, after proof appeared that Saddam had 500 tons of yellowcake Uranium Oxide in storage when he was invaded (enough for 148 nuclear bombs), the MSM simply DROPPED the “Iraq Had No WMD” stories, with no corrections, no clarifications, apologies, nothing
How long does it take to process yellowcake? With what facilities? Was any amount of the yellowcake a WMD?
You clearly live on the same planet, but in an entirely different world. The yellowcake story was debunked so thoroughly, so long ago, I can't imagine where you get your information. (What's that? Fox News? Oh, now it all makes sense.)
Posted by: Pennypacker at March 06, 2007 12:25 AM (acgYa)
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ENNYPACKER
WHAT ABOUT SADDAM’S 500 TONS OF URANIUM?
It’s true, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, and I provide my sources below. I hope that more people will become aware of these facts. The references are not hot linked, so you will have to cut and paste them onto a URL line.
First, an overview. These 500 tons were known to “insiders” since 1991, before Iraq War 1. The yellowcake was logged and documented by UN weapons inspectors, and even tagged by them. Furthermore, there have been numerous reports since 1991 that Saddam was trying to buy more yellowcake, even up to time of Iraq War 2, and his sons visited Niger to satisfy him, although this may have been a subterfuge on their part, to appease their father, since new shipments do not appear to have come from Niger to Iraq. However, it is probably those negotiations which make British intelligence certain that Iraq was trying to obtain yellowcake from Niger or the Congo up until Iraq War 2.
The story gains importance in light of four other context pieces. First, Saddam maintained a clear desire to have nuclear weapons, as witnessed by his constantly asking sons, aides, advisers, and generals about such weapons, and the preparations to produce them. Second, many parts and plans for nuclear weapons development were maintained, as physical components, hard copies of plans, and detailed information kept in the memories of Iraqi scientists and engineers. Third, given the very large stockpile of yellowcake, it seems impossible for the weapons inspectors to have fully and completely prevented the Iraqi’s from removing substantial amounts of it, either for clandestine use, or for sale to other states or organizations.
Fourth, this huge stockpile, held in plain view of inspectors, must have been very embarrassing for the US government. It meant that if Iraq were to expel the UN inspectors, Iraq could have nuclear weapons in as little as 18 months, as well as sell some to other states or organizations. Because the stockpile was known to the UN weapons inspectors, George Bush Sr. must also have known. Clinton must have known, and he frequently stated with certainty that Iraq had WMD, but why did he do nothing during his tenure? Lastly, Bush Jr. would have known about it, but this would have been difficult to disclose, especially after 9/11. If, after 9/11, Bush were to disclose that the US had known about the yellowcake (and other, more enriched uranium) for at least 13 years, with Iraq’s capability to transition at any time to building nuclear weapons, he could have been accused of the reckless endangerment of the entire western world. Bush Jr. has still has not disclosed his full knowledge of this, even though the main body of information is recorded in UN weapons inspector reports. After 9/11, Bush Jr. would know that Iraq had to be invaded because of the yellowcake, but it would still be awkward to explain publicly why he was so sure about the WMD.
After Iraq War 2 started, the media began talking about “no WMD”, and Bush could not rebut directly. Instead, it leaked out indirectly through several sources, including an awkward NY Times story. After the NYT story, plus several other revelations about Iraqi WMD, the MSM appeared to accept that Iraq, after all did have substantial amounts of WMD materials and capabilities, and these were a clear and present danger to the US. The MSM immediately stopped presenting “no WMD” reports. The public has still not realized the implications of these events. The key information about WMD became public, but in an awkward way, and Bush was off the hook about a possible “yellowcake scandal”. By 2006, the yellowcake had been recovered by the US military. Amazingly (to me), most people still seem to believe that Iraq had no WMD, and no WMD potential, prior to Iraq War 2!
REFERENCES
The 500 tons:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/17/171214.shtml
NYT May, 2004:
"The repository, at Tuwaitha, a centerpiece of Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons program until it was largely shut down after the first Persian Gulf war in 1991, holds more than 500 tons of uranium..." as well as, "some 1.8 tons...classified as low-enriched uranium." The latter could be enriched to make a single nuclear weapon.
More info at San Diego Union-Tribune:
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:VbqfPPAHYeMJ:www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040522/news_1n22uranium.html+holds+more+than+500+tons+of+uranium&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=3&client=firefox-a
And:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/07/about_that_500_tons_of_yellow.html
IAEA Records:
http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Booklets/Iraq/event.html
Iraqi weapons planning:
http://tks.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTJjYzYzYmMwNjY3N2YwNWE5NDQ3ZTQzZDczZWU5N2Y=
Quotations from IAEA reports:
October 4, 1991:“Dr. Blix reported that the sixth IAEA inspection team had obtained conclusive documentary evidence that the Government of Iraq had a programme for developing nuclear weapons. The IAEA inspection team obtained this information from classified Iraqi papers, some of which had already been translated and analysed. These documents revealed that Iraq's nuclear weapons programme was supported by a broad-based international procurement effort.”
Nov 11-18, 1991: “Iraqi authorities went to great lengths to prevent the discovery of procurement data. Most procurement related information had been removed and presumably destroyed, the IAEA eighth inspection team reported. Even so, examination of data collected by the inspection teams firmly identified the manufacturers of most equipment used or intended for use in Iraqi efforts to establish a centrifuge production and operation capability.”
Source:
http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Booklets/Iraq/event.html
This program was never abandoned after 1991.
Stockpiled weapons development parts and plans:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/17/171214.shtml
Other Iraqi WMD:
http://politicscentral.com/audio/2006/09/Iraq_NGIC_Unclassified_WMDs_083106.pdf
Posted by: DemocracyRules at March 08, 2007 10:52 PM (L/SIz)
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March 03, 2007
Vile Coulter Does It Again
Should we bomb Connecticut, kill their pundits, and convert them to Christianity?
Ann Coulter is a verbal suicide bomber, willing to blow away her credibility and that of those around her for a few extra moments of infamy. Sooner or later, CPAC and other conservative and Republican groups are going to learn that Coulter is far more interested in promoting herself than any ideology they share.
Captain Ed said it a bit more tactfully than I might, but he
said it well:
At some point, Republicans will need to get over their issues with homosexuality. Regardless of whether one believes it to be a choice or a hardwired response, it has little impact on anyone but the gay or lesbian person. We can argue that homosexuality doesn't require legal protection, but not when we have our front-line activists referring to them as "faggots" or worse. That indicates a disturbing level of animosity rather than a true desire to allow people the same rights and protections regardless of their lifestyles.
Ann Coulter can be an entertaining and incisive wit. Unfortunately, she can also be a loose cannon, and CPAC might want to consider that the next time around.
Ann Coulter stopped being an asset for conservatives a long time ago. I think it is time we move on past her.
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Frankly, I don't think it is fair to Ann to invite her knowing she flamed tham last year, released a pull no punches book last summer and on visits to H&C is practically frothing.
If they didn't want it, don't invite her. It seems to me everyone is using this to tout their homo-philic bona fides.
Its unfair to rake her over the coals for what anyone with reasoning power would have predicted.
Posted by: lonetown at March 03, 2007 10:24 AM (KdCoY)
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People need to get thicker skins.
Posted by: vilmar at March 03, 2007 11:00 AM (6n4Ex)
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Geez, Edwards is an effeminate man who used to channel dead babies for a living and now wants to lead the free world.
Some people who just want to "all get along" or maybe have character flaws they just don't want displayed cannot tolerate a derogatory remark, so thay start "taking back words" and prohibiting their use.
Faggot is a derogatory term for and effeminate man, check wickopedia. Appling it to Edwards is appropriate.
Also, in a similar vein, I thing examining whether we want an Obama muslim for president deserves similar pointed derision.
Posted by: RFYoung at March 03, 2007 11:31 AM (WqZCc)
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i agree with RFYoung.
ann is funny and accurate.
Posted by: reliapundit at March 03, 2007 12:00 PM (H6Lch)
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That wasn't very cool of Ann to say. Oh well.
Posted by: brando at March 03, 2007 12:53 PM (uZ35s)
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It was an ugly, off-color remark that inevitably reflects on her, the attendees, the sponsors, the candidates, and even the blog commenters who feel the need to defend it.
This all has less (or nothing) to do with homophobia or homophilia, than with bad manners, in this instance as displayed in a highly political context. The line would have been just as embarrassing, and just as un-funny, at a dinner party or anywhere other event where most attendees are expected, for instance, to have bathed recently and to avoid picking their noses in the middle of conversation.
It brought me back to Clinton impeachment days, when Coulter couldn't seem to let go of certain sordid footnotes to the Starr Report, and would continually re-cycle them, taking obvious pleasure in scandalizing other participants, the Lanny Davis's of the world, in whatever roundtable discussion, but continually underlining for middle-of-the-road viewers how little they wanted PEOPLE LIKE HER to take over.
It doesn't have to be a big deal. She could apologize, just like your ornery uncle might apologize after having a few too many and cussing at Thanksgiving in front of the kids, though I wonder if that might not conflict with her "I-wont-back-down" image.
Posted by: Police Commissioner Hakim Hussein at March 03, 2007 01:08 PM (muz9j)
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CY is absolutely right. Coulter is shameless and will say absolutely anything to get her name in print. It's no coincidence that she used 'raghead' last year and 'faggot' this year. Her appearance at national Republican events, alongside the VP, says that the GOP is the party of reaction and bigotry.
IMO what the GOP needs to bring to the table is self-determination, merit, fiscal prudence, and Main Street values. Such a platform would have broad appeal among millions of level-headed Americans, myself included.
Instead the GOP tries to build a coalition around a motley assortment of bigots, Christian fundamentalists, tax warriors, and war enthusiasts. As a result a GOP leaders are forced to be duplicitous to keep all these groups happy.
RFYoung -- first of all, you know perfectly well that 'faggot' means homosexual and the associated stereotypes. No one is alleging that Edwards is gay. Criticism of presidential candidates should be related to the job. For instance, Coulter could have said that he lacks backbone, which might be a valid charge. She used the word 'faggot' to appeal the the lowest portion of the GOP, namely the bigots. It's truly unfortunate that the GOP provides a comfortable home for people like you and Coulter.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 03, 2007 01:17 PM (QIBsG)
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Lex Steele sounds like a bigoted christophobe, tax and spend liberal, candy-ass pacifist, Islamophilic, sodomite defender (but that's just a hunch).
The invectives of the Left are rarely questioned or discussed, e.g., Oberman, Franken, the Clintons, Begala, etc. Give Ann a break. You don't have to agree with her, but some of us do.
Posted by: drewas at March 03, 2007 02:21 PM (loE3F)
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Wasn't she referring to the basketball player who just apologised ans will begin his sensitivity training in a week or two?
I believe its called irony.
Posted by: lonetown at March 03, 2007 02:22 PM (KdCoY)
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Meanwhile, Bill Maher can make comments about how he's sorry the assassination attempt on VP Cheney failed (http://newsbusters.org/node/11169) and the left laughs along.
Let's compare these shall we? One was a joke (gone bad, possibly, but a joke.) The other serious.
Guess which one the left gets their panties in a bunch about.
Posted by: vilmar at March 03, 2007 02:41 PM (6n4Ex)
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great post--thanks...don't know if you've seen this video of Ann Coulter, but it's pretty classic:
http://minor-ripper.blogspot.com/2006/12/ann-coulter-gets-owned.html
Posted by: Minor Ripper at March 03, 2007 04:35 PM (NoWat)
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Hey, if you invited Sid Vicious to the party, don't be surprised when he's pissing in the potted palms and stealing the silverware ;->
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2007 08:30 PM (5OYu4)
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CY:
I'm again pleased by your measured response to Coulter's attack. As you no doubt know by now, I don't agree with you on many issues, but I appreciate your consistent decency.
Vilmar: were you as forgiving of Kerry's joke gone bad?
Posted by: Doc Washboard at March 03, 2007 09:31 PM (7UIq1)
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While I think all 3 of the comments (Kerry, Maher and Coulter's) were meant to be funny, I also think they all meant the underlying sentiments.
The question is, are you more offended by someone who:
a) insinuating a public figure is a homosexual
b) says they wished a public figure had successfully been assassinated
c) believes that our heroes in the armed forces are idiots?
Personally, I'm most offended by C. While A and B were also spoken by pundits (read that as "entertainers" or "talking heads"), C was uttered by a man who wants to lead our troops. That
s a recipe for disaster if ever there was one!
Posted by: ProphetJoe at March 04, 2007 12:10 AM (CwVm0)
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Drewas: "Lex Steele sounds like a bigoted christophobe, tax and spend liberal, candy-ass pacifist, Islamophilic, sodomite defender (but that's just a hunch)."
Drewas sounds like a man who's insecure about his political party. No doubt a quick refresher on the founding fathers will soothe his worried soul.
(N.B.: I mean no offense to anyone on this forum except for Drewas.)
The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion.
--Washington and Adams, Treaty of Tripoli
What have been Christianity's fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.
--James Madison
The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.
--Thomas Jefferson
The whole history of these books is so defective and doubtful -- evidence that parts have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds.
--Thomas Jefferson
The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.
--Benjamin Franklin
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify
and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
--Thomas Paine
What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the
people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not.
--Madison
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 04, 2007 02:24 AM (QIBsG)
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Prophet Joe, you put it all in context. No one has to listen to Coulter or Maher, and they were never elected to any position. Senator Kerry has the power to affect people's lives.
Posted by: Tom TB at March 04, 2007 08:04 AM (GQv1b)
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I'm glad they invited Ann. They needed someone in the room with some testosterone.
The fact that everyone is getting their undies in a bunch just proves Ann right.
She didn't say Edwards is a faggot she said we are no longer allowed to say Edwards is a faggot. She is right.
Posted by: tracelan at March 04, 2007 08:54 AM (ZlXVq)
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FAscinatingly enough, Lex, most of the original Colonists were in fact Christian and came here in order to practice their religon in the public sphere and in their public lives. Until the 1950's public exercise of religon by political officeholders was the mass rule and not the exception- and socially, America was a better place.
Perhaps you would be happier in a place where there really is a ban on religon: Cuba, where you could enjoy all the teenage prostitutes you wish. GO thou.
Posted by: DaveP. at March 04, 2007 10:36 AM (YIq+c)
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DaveP: as I said, those quotation were meant for the benefit of just one person.
Since you wish to intervene though, were Madison, Franklin, Jefferson, Washington and Adams socialists and pedophiles, or just people that quote them?
The Age of Enlightenment is lost of the likes of you. Perhaps you'd be happier in a theocracy? Go thou.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 04, 2007 12:40 PM (QIBsG)
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Sorry, I agree with the Yankee: Ann Coulter is an abrasive and foul-mouthed liability.
Posted by: mike at March 04, 2007 04:43 PM (GLMrI)
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She would rather make a splash than be effective. Smart, but unwise. And maybe a bit too angry than she needs to be. Not a cheerful warrior.
Posted by: bird dog at March 04, 2007 05:41 PM (GQv1b)
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I don't see anyone changing their vote because of something Coulter spouts anymore than the ranting of a Ward Churchill queer any democrat votes.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 04, 2007 06:19 PM (5OYu4)
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Does your plan to bomb CT and kill all their pundits include the amateur ones too? Cause maybe I should move.
Posted by: Stephen Macklin at March 04, 2007 08:20 PM (Z3kjO)
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OGMAFB. What's the heinous sin she's committed now? Oh yes, insinuating that the Blow-Dried Princess might not be as manly as sells well outside of San Francisco. Why, how DARE she? Everyone knows only militant homosexual groups are allowed to "out" politicians!
Yes, using the word "faggot" is crude and tacky. Far beneath her.
But this is the same old tactic she's always used. The woman is perfectly aware that the only press a conservative gets is BAD press, so she takes it and force-feeds it to them. About once or twice a year she deliberately drops the PC equivalent of the f-bomb at the policulti lawn party, and frothing liberals (and truckling conservatives)go into a tailspin..... and keep her on the front page while simultaneously making fools of themselves with their strangely selective fastidiousness.
Christ almighty, you people make more fuss over the woman saying something crude (and coincidentally painfully true) than you do about the politicians she criticizes--- who are out there committing libel, slander, and seditious treason on a daily frigging basis.
Posted by: RHJunior at March 04, 2007 11:10 PM (u0PnJ)
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I think the term 'hand grenade' is the proper way to describe her comment. indiscriminately damaging everyone in the room. Worse off, she used it against someone who was doing a fine job of defeating himself. Edwards has zero change of getting the nod from the Dems. Why make a mockery of the CPAC convention other than her own self interest. "Well I just finished talking about myself for the last 20 minutes. What can I say now that will keep people talking about me for weeks?" The Convention should have been about Romney being the true conservative candidate for president. That's all been forgotten over her self-indulgent comment. Oh well, at least we still have Guiliani. He's not conservative, but he beat can Clintobama and will kick terrorist ass.
Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at March 05, 2007 08:59 AM (/N9ci)
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Yea!!! tracelan!!!
I was beginning to think I was the only native English speaker on the web!!
Editor & Publisher relates the story this way:
Speaking Friday at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference CPAC) in Washington, D.C., Coulter closed her remarks with: “I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot,’ so I -- so kind of an impasse, can’t really talk about Edwards.”
For those of you that never took an English course after 6th grade, she said that if she "...can't really talk about Edwards" because of not wanting to "...use the word 'faggot'". She didn't say "call someone a 'faggot'"she said "use the word". Maybe you think that is what she meant, but with some effort I'm sure you could use that word in a sentence discussing Edward's political positions rather than his sexual ones. Possibly she was planning to use a word much worse than ‘faggot’ and lamenting what the punishment might be. And based on ‘tolerance’ what’s wrong with ‘faggot’? It's much milder than what she has been called, and I thought while the word might be rude, the condition was to be celebrated.
It's rude to be rude, but it's worse to tolerate the PC nonsense that Orwell warned us about a half a century ago. If you allow your opponents to make the rules (and break them with no consequence)the best you can do is a fighting withdrawal (otherwise known as a retreat). Civilized discourse is for civilized debate, otherwise you must fight in the way that your opponents understand. The problem with many conservatives inside the beltway is that they begin to believe the boundaries that the media and leftists set are laws of nature, not artificial constructs.
English is a language that can be very precise and everyone seems to be interpreting this rather than reading it as it was said. This is the same thing that is so irritating about the misuse of the language by the lame stream media, it's targeted to play to people whose jumping to conclusions based on inconclusive evidence is their main source of exercise.
Perhaps patent infringement on the use of technique, but which school of journalism actually holds the patent?
Posted by: RRRoark at March 05, 2007 09:33 AM (EfnrW)
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In what way is Edwards more "effeminate" than, for instance, George W. Bush -- who can't sleep on the road without his personal pillow (reported endearingly during the 2000 campaign), is known to be especially close to his mother, is obsessed with his own physical appearance, spends an unusually large number of hours per week engaged in activities designed to maintain a youthful appearance, etc., etc.
My point of course isn't that Bush IS effeminate -- it is that this silly schoolyard level of made up "political" argument can easily be aimed at ANYONE.
With everything that this nation has on its plate right now, its time to up the level of dignity and seriousness on display in our political debate.
America doesn't have time for silly people like Ann Coulter anymore -- or for ordinary citizens unable to comprehend the difference between juvenile name calling and a real understanding of the issues.
I have no idea why, at 45, Ann continues to dress like an early 70s hippie -- long, stringy hair, leather vests, mini-skirts -- roll her eyes like a foolish adolescent, or talk like a 9 year old aiming to shock the adults. But, whether or not she can or wants to grow up, it certainly is well past time for the rest of us to do so.
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So While We're Here, Would You Like a Swatch?
Just when we least expected it, the Swiss accidentally invaded Liechtenstein:
What began as a routine training exercise almost ended in an embarrassing diplomatic incident after a company of Swiss soldiers got lost at night and marched into neighboring Liechtenstein.
According to Swiss daily Blick, the 170 infantry soldiers wandered just over a mile across an unmarked border into the tiny principality early Thursday before realizing their mistake and turning back.
A spokesman for the Swiss army confirmed the story but said that there were unlikely to be any serious repercussions for the mistaken invasion.
Swiss Army knives are apparently far better than Swiss Army compasses.
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I am reminded of the old Sinatra classic:
"Rangers in the night,
exchanging azimuths.
Wondering which is right...."
Posted by: Russ at March 02, 2007 04:52 PM (cu9kz)
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Huh. I'm surprised the knives didn't have a compass. Of course newer models should have a GPS built in.
Posted by: ThatGayConservative at March 03, 2007 05:55 AM (ACAez)
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We know, at least, that they became lost precisely on time!
Posted by: drewas at March 03, 2007 01:57 PM (loE3F)
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Compasses don't mislead people.
PEOPLE mislead people!!!!
=)
Posted by: Bill Smith at March 03, 2007 06:03 PM (UvXVP)
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Uh-oh. The Swiss are getting imperialistic again.
Posted by: MunDane at March 05, 2007 02:27 PM (Bi4Gu)
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Long Ago and Far Away (From Mattering)
Other than the faintly Clintonesque stink surrounding it, Jules Crittenden captures everything I wanted to say about the latest presidential candidate scandal (right down to the Monty Python reference) in Sins of the Great-Great-Great Grandfather.
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I think its ironic that Al Sharpton may have just played a major role in keeping Obama from being the first black President. His race pimping in calling out Strom Thurmond's relatives have made Obama's 'sin' seem worse.
Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at March 02, 2007 03:25 PM (oC8nQ)
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All this 'sins of the great-great-grandfather, et al', seems to be carrying things a bit too far.
It seems to focus on trivialities of the distant past, too, when much closer day serious sins stare them right in the face. Look at that pic of Barak's father in the DailyMail. It appears he was a smoker! This is deeply disturbing to me. I don't know that I could vote for a man knowing that his father smoked, even if it was a pipe.
Posted by: Dusty at March 02, 2007 03:41 PM (GJLeQ)
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I loved the nose in the air sound of this line by the starched pants at the Daily Mail: "Barack Obama Snr started life with the advantage of being able to read and write, ..."
I much prefer the thought he might have started life in a hospital because he wanted to be near his mother. (ht: Howard, Fine, and Howard)
Posted by: Dusty at March 02, 2007 03:53 PM (GJLeQ)
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Could someone slap Al Sharpton upside the head and remind him that this "blame the guy for his great to the xth power grandparents acts" thing is what has kept the Middle East and the Balkans (and Ireland to a lesser extent) such a mess for several hundred years?
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Rumors of War
Correspondent: What do you think of the new Security Plan? Answer quickly… before the next explosion! [Al Bayyna Al Jadidah Newspaper] (1 MAR)
As we all know, the Baghdad Security Plan (BSP) has been underway for several weeks, and while it is far to early to judge how effective the program will be, the opinion of how the plan is progressing among Baghdadis is almost as important as any measurable yardsticks gauging success.
This morning, I was provided with a copy of an Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) newsletter,
THE BAGHDAD MOSQUITO, 2 March 2007, Volume IV, Edition 1257.
The newsletter tracks accounts in the Iraqi media (newspapers, television, and radio), and perhaps as importantly, public opinion and commonly-shared rumors.
Here is a selection of some of the more interesting rumors and Iraqi opinion as related to OSINT yesterday, March 1, from Iraqi citizens. Please keep in mind these are rumors, and may or may not be true:
- Sharqiya TV channel discovered from a secret source that a few days ago, Muqtada Al Sadr called his high level associates, including those in the government, and told them to leave Iraq within 12 hours.
- Sunnis believe that the new Baghdad Security Plan (BSP) has focused only on Sunni areas. Interestingly, when Iraqi forces conduct solo raids without US forces, they make mass arrests of Sunnis without any concrete charges. When these same forces accompany US forces, only one or two Sunnis are arrested. The one or two that are arrested are usually arrested due to their possession of forbidden medium or heavy weapons.
- Around three or four days ago, residents in the Kadhimiya area of Baghdad captured an Afghan suicide bomber. However, rather than turning the bomber over to coalition forces, the Mahdi Army attempted to interrogate the man but were unable to so they executed hi on the spot. It is believed the bomber was going to detonate himself in Kadhimiya Shrine.
- Iran is sponsoring Al Qaida in Iraq’s activities in concert with pro-Iranian elements inside the Iraqi government. Iran provides funding and weapons to Al Qaida. Al Qaida then purposely operates in Sunni areas, where there may or may not be any actual Sunni resistance. Once Al Qaida begins its activities in a given Sunni area, pro-Iranian elements in the government advise the MNF that operations should be conducted in that area. Once MNF approval is given, then preferably Iraqi forces, under the cover of anti-Al Qaida operations, conduct ethnic cleansing and displacement operations of the targeted Sunni area.
- Recently, since the beginning of the new BSP, a Shiite family that had been displaced returned to the Mansour area of Baghdad. When asked why they returned, the father of the family stated they came back because the Mahdi Army commander that had displaced them has been arrested by US forces.
The next group of rumors should be called, "Everybody hates Al Mahdi."
- Some Iraqis believe that the US was behind the recent attempted assassination of VP Adil Abd Al Mahdi. They point out that the US searched the area in question an hour or two before the bombing occurred.
- Some Iraqis believe that the recent attempted assassination of VP Abd Al Mahdi was a joint effort between the Sadr Movement and Dawa Party who both fear that Abd Al Mahdi will take the PM position from current PM, Nuri Al Maliki.
- Some Iraqis believe that the recent attempted assassination of VP Abd Al Mahdi was carried out by forces related to former PM Ayad Allawi, who wants to take the PM position from current PM, Nuri Al Maliki.
And as promised, here is the OSINT report on how different sects view the new Baghdad Security Plan (BSP):
How Is The New Baghdad Security Plan (BSP) Going?
The group’s views on this question differed by their sects and the areas in which they live. A snapshot of some Baghdad areas follows.
The Dora area is witnessing daily clashes between the residents there and Iraqi forces because the residents do not and will not, accept the presence of Iraqi forces without their being accompanied by the US. This is based on the residence distrust of the Iraqi forces due to militia/Iranian infiltration of these forces and the mass arrests/kidnappings that have occurred there in the past. The residents are very appreciative of recent US efforts to provide them with fuel and heaters, as well as that the US forced the current Iraqi government to provide them with electricity. The people of Dora say they will accept a US/Iraqi Combat Outpost BUT until the residents can trust the Iraqi forces, only Sunni military members should be part of such an outpost. This includes a Sunni commander of these forces.
One area that has not improved with the new BSP is the Saydia/Bayaa area. This area is still witnessing displacements, kidnappings, and assassinations. However, militia and/or terrorist activity is not conducted in the open. Snipers are operating from the roofs of homes and buildings in the area. There have been a few US patrols but not many.
The Kadhimiya area of Baghdad has changed some. Prior to the new BSP this area was fairly calm due to the majority Shiite population and militia provided security. There is now more of a US patrol presence in the area and the militias no longer appear out in the open. However, when an event does occur, Mahdi Army members still appear on very short notice, as witnessed by Rumor # 9 above [note: this related to the rumor of the Afghan suicide bomber executed by the Madhi Army militia -- ed]. Services were and still are fairly good in this area.
The Mansour area has not changed much with the new BSP. The pattern for this area, as before, continues to be quiet days with little or no activity, to days of intense attacks and clashes. There are also still sporadic clashes between Sunni and Shiite militias in this area as well as kidnappings and assassinations between the two sects.
The area that has probably benefited the most under the new BSP is the Shaab/Hay Urr area of NE Baghdad. A Sunni resident reported that when the plan began, US forces conducted raids against suspected militia/terrorist targets which ahs succeeded in forcing the Mahdi Army out of this area. The Mahdi Army had been exercising heavy handed control of this area previously. Prior to the new plan, residents report finding five to ten bodies every morning and the control of the markets there by Mahdi Army though extortion. Now, there is no noticeable presence of militia. Some families that had been displaced have returned and the markets and neighborhoods are becoming lively again. The residents credit this improvement to the US forces efforts to chase the Mahdi Army from the area and the presence of the US Combat Outpost there as well.
Overall this week, Iraqis are more pessimistic about the new BSP than they were last week. This week’s pessimism is related to the continuing lack of confidence in the current Iraqi government which transfers into a lack of confidence in the Iraqi Army and Iraqi Police. The group continues, for the most part, to believe that the current Iraqi government is still full of corruption and overwhelming Iranian influence.
In short, the Baghdadis interviewed may or may not be impressed with the BSP as executed thus far, depending on what they've seen in their neighborhoods, and what sect they belong to.
In areas where Coalition forces have been active (especially U.S forces), the residents seem to have a better opinion of how the plan is progressing. In areas where the plan is being implemented primarily by Iraqi forces, which many Sunnis do not trust, the plan is not seen as working, and it has led to conflict... which shouldn't be all that surprising, as government forces are focusing operations on stomping out the Sunni insurgents operating there, and have been accused in the past of operating as cover for Madhi Army death squads.
Areas where U.S. combat outposts have been established seem to be displacing the Madhi Army militiamen, and while it is far too early to know if a long-term change will result, these areas seem for the present to be "becoming lively again," and the residents credit U.S. forces.
Iraqi opinion overall is mixed, but more pessimistic, and this is likely due to expectations (or at least hopes) that the new BSP would reduce violence across all areas of Baghdad as soon as it began, and for those people who are not in the neighborhoods being secured first, there is some obvious disappointment.
The opinions contained in this edition of
THE BAGHDAD MOSQUITO seem to reinforce the importance of the plan to "surge" more American forces into Baghdad over the next weeks and months.
It seems that regardless of whether the neighborhood is Shia, Sunni, or mixed, they seem to have more confidence in U.S. forces to be able to help bring security, at least in the short term. Sunni Baghdadis seem more receptive to U.S. forces than they do the Shia-dominated Iraqi police and military, but they do seem willing to accept predominately Sunni military units with Sunni commanders acting in conjunction with U.S. forces.
It is important to note that the BSP/"surge" is only in its opening stages, but that most citizens hope it will succeed. The downside of what they are reporting is that the changes have not been uniform nor widespread, and that Iraqis simply do not yet have faith in their own forces to enforce the plan equally across sectarian lines.
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