Another Product of Hillary Care
Want to know what government health care looks like. take a peek.
Just think about it, seriously. When you go to a government office, ANY government office, to deal with a bureaucrat, when is the last time you thought they had ANY feelings? Have you heard them say, "Gee, I'm sorry, I'm just doing my job?" Or perhaps you've heard, "Well, we just have to do it that way." Put government even more in charge of health care and you WILL have doctors and nurse bureaucrats saying the exact same things. Go ahead, elect Hillary. You WILL see more of this sort of thing. (H/T to Kender)
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My biggest nightmare. Anyone who has ever had to fill out a FAF (Financial Aid Form) while in college can understand the absolute loathing one feels when dealing with Government Buracracy. Add to that the Unemployment Office frustration... you and your former employer pay into it, and that lady behind the counter acts like she is paying you out of her bank account.
Dealing with the government insures tons of red tape and paperwork, long waits, frustrating stupid rules, being treated like a dog (dehumanized) and think about doctors... what kind of quality of care will their be when they can't make enough to pay off the huge amount owed on student loans or to pay their high premiums for malpractice insurance! We won't get the quality of doctors we have now.
Dealing with the government insures tons of red tape and paperwork, long waits, frustrating stupid rules, being treated like a dog (dehumanized) and think about doctors... what kind of quality of care will their be when they can't make enough to pay off the huge amount owed on student loans or to pay their high premiums for malpractice insurance! We won't get the quality of doctors we have now.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 06, 2007 03:40 PM (eaqGd)
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We will get forced doctors -- that's what happens every time this system is tried. People won't become doctors, at first, because it won't be profitable enough. Then the government will just have to give away more to "attract" people to become doctors -- and they will just end up being more unfeeling bureaucrats that are "just doing their job." It will be a nightmare.
The only hope is that since this is America, there WILL be an underground that will provide medical services, even if it will only be for those who can afford it.
The only hope is that since this is America, there WILL be an underground that will provide medical services, even if it will only be for those who can afford it.
Posted by: Ogre at November 06, 2007 04:04 PM (oifEm)
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That poor woman in England is raising her son alone because of deplorable care in a hospital!
But those are the kinds of people who will be in nursing if we become socialized. It is all scary to me.
But those are the kinds of people who will be in nursing if we become socialized. It is all scary to me.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 06, 2007 04:08 PM (eaqGd)
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That should be "deplorable care in a GOVERNMENT hospital." That's the scary part.
Posted by: Ogre at November 06, 2007 04:11 PM (oifEm)
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Amen to what HoosierArmyMom said ... I have had to deal with Financial aid and unemployment.
The financial aid people, even though it was a LOAN acted like I was a leach and unemployment people acted like I was the worst loser in the world and talked to me like I was a brain damaged child.
They were both very demeaning experiences and the goberment worker acted like they were very superior to me.
I do not want that when dealing with my health, god knows I have enough problems dealing with health insurance right now, I don't need the goberment thrown into that mix.
The financial aid people, even though it was a LOAN acted like I was a leach and unemployment people acted like I was the worst loser in the world and talked to me like I was a brain damaged child.
They were both very demeaning experiences and the goberment worker acted like they were very superior to me.
I do not want that when dealing with my health, god knows I have enough problems dealing with health insurance right now, I don't need the goberment thrown into that mix.
Posted by: Quality Weenie at November 06, 2007 05:31 PM (uHRYR)
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Just picture dealing with the intake medical office assistant who is annoyed that you're bothering her when she could be on her bureaucratic 10-minutes per hour break. She won't care that you're bleeding on the floor.
Then picture the nurse who will tell you to stand on the scale because she needs your weight -- even if you're there because you've a broken ankle. I can easily hear, "If you don't stand on the scale so I can get your weight, you cannot proceed. That's my job, taking down your weight, and I'm just not allowed to let you go on until I've got it. Now get on the scale."
Then picture the nurse who will tell you to stand on the scale because she needs your weight -- even if you're there because you've a broken ankle. I can easily hear, "If you don't stand on the scale so I can get your weight, you cannot proceed. That's my job, taking down your weight, and I'm just not allowed to let you go on until I've got it. Now get on the scale."
Posted by: Ogre at November 06, 2007 05:39 PM (oifEm)
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Hehe. Nice video.
But you have to realize that today the word "racism" ONLY means white people being mean to black people. Seriously. It's absolutely, completely impossible, in today's PC world, for a black person to be racist. Or a Democrat.
But you have to realize that today the word "racism" ONLY means white people being mean to black people. Seriously. It's absolutely, completely impossible, in today's PC world, for a black person to be racist. Or a Democrat.
Posted by: Ogre at November 06, 2007 08:11 PM (oifEm)
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Well Wuptdo, I am white... kinda... add Cherokee, Choctaw and I'm not sure what else to that description.
Kewl Vid... thanks for sharing. LOL!!!
Kewl Vid... thanks for sharing. LOL!!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 06, 2007 09:03 PM (eaqGd)
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Oh, so you're "American Indian." You get free cash, too.
Posted by: Ogre at November 06, 2007 11:59 PM (2WD8n)
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Actually, I'm too watered down for cash, my Great Great Grandmother was full blooded Cherokee, but was raised by a white family in Missisippi and there is no "paper trail". The Choctaw comes on my Great Grandmother's side and was her Grandmother. But you can tell by looking it's there. When I and my brother and sister were babies, everyone asked Mom if the adopted Korean babies! LOL!!! My son had the Asian look when he was an infant as well!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 07, 2007 01:52 AM (TzKlC)
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Check out
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/07/us/07medicare.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&ei=5070&en=1d8692f5e7d7a22f&ex=1192420800&adxnnl=1&emc=eta1&adxnnlx=1194429605-MSPgoZYuaf2BURoYnPlJJQ
to see how much your profit-making private monopolies care about you.
“Every enrollee in a private Medicare plan is a potential source of substantial profits,” just about says it all. Customer service is not even a small part of their equation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/07/us/07medicare.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&ei=5070&en=1d8692f5e7d7a22f&ex=1192420800&adxnnl=1&emc=eta1&adxnnlx=1194429605-MSPgoZYuaf2BURoYnPlJJQ
to see how much your profit-making private monopolies care about you.
“Every enrollee in a private Medicare plan is a potential source of substantial profits,” just about says it all. Customer service is not even a small part of their equation.
Posted by: Your Privatization Pals at November 07, 2007 10:13 AM (y2s/z)
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Which is why government should completely and totally get out of the medical business. They shouldn't regulate it, and they shouldn't provide Medicare.
Posted by: Ogre at November 07, 2007 12:15 PM (oifEm)
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Well according to my college and financial aid I use to be black, but when I changed to being white I was no longer allowed financial aid.
Some how the college wrote down I was black (I could have sworn I checked white) and for the first 4 years of college I got finanical aid loans, but when I finally got it corrected that I was indeed white (took a full year) I no longer got a financial aid loan.
Why?
Because when your black you get extra points for fianancial aid. So even though I had been getting FA and my dad was making the same money, etc I couldn't get FA because I lost the "black" points.
Talk about racist. We were "poor" enough to get FA when I was black but we were "to rich" when I became white.
Some how the college wrote down I was black (I could have sworn I checked white) and for the first 4 years of college I got finanical aid loans, but when I finally got it corrected that I was indeed white (took a full year) I no longer got a financial aid loan.
Why?
Because when your black you get extra points for fianancial aid. So even though I had been getting FA and my dad was making the same money, etc I couldn't get FA because I lost the "black" points.
Talk about racist. We were "poor" enough to get FA when I was black but we were "to rich" when I became white.
Posted by: Quality Weenie at November 07, 2007 03:25 PM (R6yie)
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Bingo. And it's sad that the colleges actually deny that they do that. And worse, they actually claim that it's not racism when they give bonus points to people based on the color of their skin.
I always check or write in "Native American" just to screw with those forms.
I always check or write in "Native American" just to screw with those forms.
Posted by: Ogre at November 07, 2007 04:00 PM (oifEm)
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But if Medicare were stopped how would retired people get health care?
Posted by: Your Privatization Pals at November 08, 2007 08:04 AM (7ppVp)
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Actually, it's not the colleges that make the rules on FA, it our wonderful government getting involved and making the "Rules" so I guess that means our government is "RACIST" eh?
I know this because I just did a 2 year contract testing software for a large FA company! Colleges do choose the programs they offer and other options, but the rules come staight from Uncle Sam and are influenced by the Lender's Lobby (Bankers).
I know this because I just did a 2 year contract testing software for a large FA company! Colleges do choose the programs they offer and other options, but the rules come staight from Uncle Sam and are influenced by the Lender's Lobby (Bankers).
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 12:09 PM (TzKlC)
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That's true. Again, yet another example of government incapable of doing anything right.
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 12:35 PM (oifEm)
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The Republicans have had since 1994 to straighten things out ... do you ever get the feeling they don't want government to work?
Citizens of "Richistan" (Americans with estates worth $1 million or more) don't need health care or police services. They are rich enough to pay for their own private bodyguards; their own private "concierge doctors".
They don't need factory workers or retired military, which are just an expense to them. They can invest their money anywhere in the world.
What are you going to do when Congress cuts your pension and denies your health benefits?
Citizens of "Richistan" (Americans with estates worth $1 million or more) don't need health care or police services. They are rich enough to pay for their own private bodyguards; their own private "concierge doctors".
They don't need factory workers or retired military, which are just an expense to them. They can invest their money anywhere in the world.
What are you going to do when Congress cuts your pension and denies your health benefits?
Posted by: Privatization Pals at November 08, 2007 07:31 PM (WHCOZ)
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Once again I point to the same solution that is the answer to nearly every question you ask: GET GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE WAY.
That will solve problems, especially those related to health care.
That will solve problems, especially those related to health care.
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 07:40 PM (oifEm)
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Posted by: Privatization Pals at November 11, 2007 07:39 AM (Cj1+K)
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Posted by: Privatization Pals at November 11, 2007 09:02 PM (O0YsD)
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Total anarchy!! Right on, man :-)
Posted by: Privatization Pals at November 12, 2007 03:42 AM (O0YsD)
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