Turkey to Iraq
And no, I'm not talking about the Turkeys in the US Congress who wanted to instigate members of the country Turkey. I'm talking about Turks who are headed to Iraq.
Can someone explain the US reaction here? I try to keep up with world affairs. I try and keep informed about what's going on (because I know it might affect me, even if it shouldn't). But I don't understand what the US is so upset about. I think they should be happy and excited! Turkey is being attacked by terrorists from Iraq. Turkey wants to go into Iraq and kill the terrorists. How is this any different from what the US did? Why would the US want to stop them, other than just to be the only world's policeman? Turkey has soldiers that have been kidnapped by people in Iraq. I think Turkey should go get them back, post haste, no matter what the US says. Update: Now Turkey says:"Cease-fires is possible between states and regular forces," Babacan said. "The problem here is that we're dealing with a terrorist organization." The PKK has called on Turkey not to attack Iraq, claiming that a unilateral rebel cease-fire declared in June was still in place although it did not halt fighting.
Hey, anyone want this guy to help our country out? He's really calling it like it is. The terrorists are actually claiming they have already stopped attacking -- despite just killing some Turkish forces! They're terrorists -- go get 'em, Babacan. Go get your soldiers back!
Comments
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one has to be careful when you start calling someone a terrorist... the kurds in this region have been struggling against turkish aggression since long before the iraq war started... the kurds that live in turkey are constantly harassed and prosecuted and the only thing that really kept the turks in place was the saddam regime, now that isnt happening and the turks are running hog wild... i would like to suggest that its the turks who are the bad guys here, i mean they do have a pretty good history of stupid aggression that results in death... look at the Armenians or even more recently, look up the city of famgusta...
Posted by: chris at October 23, 2007 08:16 PM (qz/By)
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Well, when they're bragging that they've captured Turkish soldiers and taken them into their country, I'm not quite sure how to not consider them terrorists. It's not like they were defending themselves, they went into Turkey and attacked.
http://www.kurdshow.com/?sf=haber&haberid=8189&ktg=1570
http://www.kurdshow.com/?sf=haber&haberid=8189&ktg=1570
Posted by: Ogre at October 23, 2007 09:58 PM (aF6z7)
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well, everything is relative, so you gotta consider both sides of the issue... its an interesting conundrum, the US has NATO obligations to turkey... but we have also promised to support the Kurds... keep in mind that turkey has been an Islamic ruled state for the last couple of hundred years... and while the extremist elements are indeed the worst enemies, the "moderate" ones can be just as bad when it comes to persecution of groups that you and I would consider to be righteous...
Posted by: chris at October 24, 2007 05:50 AM (qz/By)
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Very true.
I guess this would fit well into Jefferson's warnings from long ago:
"I have ever deemed it fundamental for the United States never to take active part in the quarrels of Europe. Their political interests are entirely distinct from ours. Their mutual jealousies, their balance of power, their complicated alliances, their forms and principles of government, are all foreign to us. They are nations of eternal war. All their energies are expended in the destruction of the labor, property and lives of their people."
I guess this would fit well into Jefferson's warnings from long ago:
"I have ever deemed it fundamental for the United States never to take active part in the quarrels of Europe. Their political interests are entirely distinct from ours. Their mutual jealousies, their balance of power, their complicated alliances, their forms and principles of government, are all foreign to us. They are nations of eternal war. All their energies are expended in the destruction of the labor, property and lives of their people."
Posted by: Ogre at October 24, 2007 11:02 AM (oifEm)
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turkey is no country full of saints... look at what they have done to Cyprus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famagusta
imagine, a modern city, fenced in and left abandoned for the last 33 years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famagusta
imagine, a modern city, fenced in and left abandoned for the last 33 years
Posted by: chris at October 24, 2007 04:09 PM (qz/By)
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I never said they were wonderful -- just that they've clearly been attacked by terrorists, the terrorists have taken hostages, and they'd like them back. I don't see how the US, of all countries, can tell them not to defend themselves against terrorist attacks.
And hey, I don't think I'd mind getting walled off from the US government for the next 33 years, can we work on that one?
And hey, I don't think I'd mind getting walled off from the US government for the next 33 years, can we work on that one?
Posted by: Ogre at October 24, 2007 07:41 PM (oifEm)
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