Republican Debate
Just a couple notes on the debate from last night. Oh, you didn't see it? Were you too busy watching the Red Sox trounce the Indians? Or perhaps you were watching the football game. No matter, you really didn't miss anything. Actually, it was the same things they've been saying all along. But a couple notes because I did actually watch just about the whole thing.
Rudy: I honestly don't understand how any Republican can vote for this guy. I've previously mentioned that Rudy cannot beat Hillary. He was asked during the debate to describe where Hillary and he disagreed. He did not answer the question AT ALL. He literally could not give ONE single example of an issue upon which he would disagree with Hillary. That's just sickening. Mitt: I'd been waffling on him. I want to support him. Peter Porcupine has been big in trying to sway Ogre's support for Romney. But after last night, I've got to add him to the short list: the list that Ogre will not vote for, even if it's Mitt vs. Hillary. Sorry, but he outright said last night that he WILL FORCE every person in America to buy health care. It doesn't matter if you want it or not, you WILL buy it, or he will jail you. He said it is absolutely unacceptable to him for anyone to NOT have health care. Sorry, Mitt, but I'd prefer freedom to government-forced, well, anything. Huckabee: Despite a few questions about Huckabee, and some SERIOUS states' rights issues with him, and with Chuck Norris' endorsement, Huck really looked good. I think he did a great job at the debate and really looked and sounded the best. I can't really throw my support behind him because of a few issues, but I could at least vote for the guy. Tancredo: Still great, but still just not getting support. Paul: Consistency, consistency, consistency. He keeps saying the same thing. There's NO question where he stands on anything. He got a lot of boos every time he mentioned getting the US out of, well, ANY foreign entanglement. That's sad because it was Republicans in the audience. People would do well to remember Jefferson's words:I am for free commerce with all nations, political connection with none, and little or no diplomatic establishment. I have ever deemed it fundamental for the United States never to take active part in the quarrels of Europe. Their political interests are entirely distinct from ours. Their mutual jealousies, their balance of power, their complicated alliances, their forms and principles of government, are all foreign to us. They are nations of eternal war. All their energies are expended in the destruction of the labor, property and lives of their people.
All in all not much excitement. But now there's three Republicans that I won't vote for if they win the primary. Sorry, but I just can't vote for the "lesser" evil.
Comments
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I watched the whole thing. The only real opinion I was left with is that Ron Paul is too much of a whiner! I do think the Libertarian tendency to avoid big government and keeping the government out of things where a free people should be able to manage is a good thing, but he is just too whiney for me. Just MHO.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at October 22, 2007 03:00 PM (eaqGd)
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He did complain about government a lot...sort of like I do all the time... 
Posted by: Ogre at October 22, 2007 03:53 PM (oifEm)
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I suppose Hunter isn't getting the support either.
I don't like a one of them, save Tancredo and Hunter.
Even Fred- who bores me to no end, isn't a supporter of American interests.
I dunno. I'm pretty bleak on it all right now.
I too cannot go for the lesser of two evils mindset. It goes against my conscience.
I don't like a one of them, save Tancredo and Hunter.
Even Fred- who bores me to no end, isn't a supporter of American interests.
I dunno. I'm pretty bleak on it all right now.
I too cannot go for the lesser of two evils mindset. It goes against my conscience.
Posted by: Raven at October 22, 2007 07:47 PM (vUhK4)
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That seems to be the general mood of all Republicans -- no one excites them. No one is really motivating anyone to get out and vote.
Democrats are energized by Bush Derangement Syndrome and cannot wait to vote. Hillary will be a very painful president.
Democrats are energized by Bush Derangement Syndrome and cannot wait to vote. Hillary will be a very painful president.
Posted by: Ogre at October 22, 2007 10:06 PM (wkwq7)
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He complained a lot but in a high pitched whine!
If my son did that I'd smack him. LOL!!! I just think a President should sound like a Man when he speaks. He should sound like he's no one to be messing with. Ron Paul sounded like a whiney old woman. LOL!!! OK, I'll duck now if there are any Ron Paul fans out there in cyberville.
If my son did that I'd smack him. LOL!!! I just think a President should sound like a Man when he speaks. He should sound like he's no one to be messing with. Ron Paul sounded like a whiney old woman. LOL!!! OK, I'll duck now if there are any Ron Paul fans out there in cyberville.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at October 23, 2007 02:06 AM (cU/eW)
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That is true -- the more excited he gets, the higher pitched his voice gets! If you were to select a president just based on his voice from this debate, Huckabee would be the easy choice.
Posted by: Ogre at October 23, 2007 02:21 AM (wkwq7)
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Ogre,
I am pretty much hoping for a Huckabee and Thompson finale at this point. I could not support most of the others, at least not with vigor. As a father of an Iraqi war vet I will not support Paul. He comes off as a nut. Romney is not conservative. I can see a flip flop fest at the Dem convention if he is chosen, just like Kerry saw at the GOP convention.
McCain has not been on our side for a long time. Guilliani is too liberal, but at least consistent about most of his stances. Hunter is a good man, but no Representative, even from CA will ever win. Tancredo is not presidential. I hope Fred gets better because you are right about Huckabee's issues. He is quite sharp on his feet though.
I am pretty much hoping for a Huckabee and Thompson finale at this point. I could not support most of the others, at least not with vigor. As a father of an Iraqi war vet I will not support Paul. He comes off as a nut. Romney is not conservative. I can see a flip flop fest at the Dem convention if he is chosen, just like Kerry saw at the GOP convention.
McCain has not been on our side for a long time. Guilliani is too liberal, but at least consistent about most of his stances. Hunter is a good man, but no Representative, even from CA will ever win. Tancredo is not presidential. I hope Fred gets better because you are right about Huckabee's issues. He is quite sharp on his feet though.
Posted by: David at October 23, 2007 04:03 AM (sihpF)
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I'm still a bit unsure on Thompson, I just don't trust him at all. One reason I like Paul is that he's saying the same things he's always said -- no changes on positions at all -- unlike the top 4. It appears that of the others, only Paul, Huckabee, and Hunter seem to have any chance at all.
Posted by: Ogre at October 23, 2007 08:53 AM (wkwq7)
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Actually, if we could just resurrect Teddy Roosevelt I'd be happy! I took the test on Cao's and the highest score was 40 for Hunter and Thompson. The Dems all scored 12 down to 5.
LOL!!! I guess I really am a "reformed" former Democrat!
LOL!!! I guess I really am a "reformed" former Democrat!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at October 26, 2007 01:21 AM (cU/eW)
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That's certainly good to hear! I just with there was a Republican that could really excite people like Reagan did. But I think Reagan was once in a lifetime.
Posted by: Ogre at October 26, 2007 11:29 AM (oifEm)
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