Freedom of Religion? Not in the USA
For those who claim, wrongly, that groups like the ACLU aren't trying to remove religion from your house, just from government property, I present the following:
Sara and everyone else at the South Church Street complex received a letter last week saying that Bible studies no longer would be allowed in the common areas of Heritage Court. The overseers of the building, Raleigh, N.C.-based One Management Inc., cited the Fair Housing Act as the reason for the change.Now I am aware that this isn't an ACLU-instigated stunt, but you can be sure the ACLU is absolutely overjoyed at this turn of events. These are people who are renting space in an apartment building. This is their home, it's where they live. The owners of the building are claiming that directly because of fear of government prosecution, they are demanding the tenants do not show any signs of religion. This is the US government absolutely crushing ANY religious expression in a private residence.
First they came for the JewsUpdate: The company has temporarily lifted the ban while they ask permission from the government.
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me. Pastor Martin Niemöller
Comments
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Just one question, when will the Christians realize that the ONLY WAY we are going to get the government to realize we WILL NOT continue to stand idly by and take our freedoms is to SUE THEM the same way the aclu(natics) and others like them have?
A group here in N Tx had to do that after they were told they couldn't advertise their Christian group on an ISD website which DID allow other religious groups to do just that. Another had to sue when they were told they would have to PAY TO USE school facilities but other religious groups didn't.
I'm sorry, and I HATE the idea of suing for this, but I've now realized that this is the ONLY WAY that the Christian community is going to get the government to realize that we will NOT go without a fight!
A group here in N Tx had to do that after they were told they couldn't advertise their Christian group on an ISD website which DID allow other religious groups to do just that. Another had to sue when they were told they would have to PAY TO USE school facilities but other religious groups didn't.
I'm sorry, and I HATE the idea of suing for this, but I've now realized that this is the ONLY WAY that the Christian community is going to get the government to realize that we will NOT go without a fight!
Posted by: Smokey at May 13, 2006 05:12 PM (5LGKd)
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Because we don't want to sink to their level. Because we, unlike them, have faith in people. Because we, unlike them, want to believe in freedom for all.
Posted by: Ogre at May 14, 2006 03:27 PM (blszc)
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Do you buy every talking point that you get spoon fed?
I mean, it sounds pretty whacked, but from your description, I don't see how you can claim it is a ban on ANY religious display or anything else.
You would present a much more believable and worrisome story if you would avoid the overpowering hyperbole.
I mean, it sounds pretty whacked, but from your description, I don't see how you can claim it is a ban on ANY religious display or anything else.
You would present a much more believable and worrisome story if you would avoid the overpowering hyperbole.
Posted by: Grokodile at May 15, 2006 01:29 AM (Zei5w)
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Please read the post again, if you will, Grokodile. The residents are being told that they cannot read the Bible in their own homes. That would be the "ban" I was referring to.
Posted by: Ogre at May 15, 2006 10:28 AM (blszc)
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This is madness. This is the path to European depravity. It's got to be stopped.
Posted by: K T Cat at May 15, 2006 11:31 AM (BqX4Z)
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Government isn't going to stop this. The ACLU certainly isn't going to stop it. So who will?
Posted by: Ogre at May 15, 2006 11:36 AM (/k+l4)
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Hey folks-
This war on Christians stuff is pure baloney. Don't you folks ever look at the Census reports? Over 90% of Americans identify themselves with Christianity of one form or another. Try being an atheist for a couple of weeks. Then you'll know what it feels like to be in the minority. My feeling is that were science as well developed as it is today prior to the birth of Jesus, he would have remained a carpenter. And just so you know - I've read much of the Bible. Some of it's pretty good. Some is boring. Some of it's downright weird. Anyway, you folks are in the majority in this country. If you really are believers, why not set aside the righteousness and take some time to marvel at the incredible diversity that has come into creation.
Satiric Phenomenologist
This war on Christians stuff is pure baloney. Don't you folks ever look at the Census reports? Over 90% of Americans identify themselves with Christianity of one form or another. Try being an atheist for a couple of weeks. Then you'll know what it feels like to be in the minority. My feeling is that were science as well developed as it is today prior to the birth of Jesus, he would have remained a carpenter. And just so you know - I've read much of the Bible. Some of it's pretty good. Some is boring. Some of it's downright weird. Anyway, you folks are in the majority in this country. If you really are believers, why not set aside the righteousness and take some time to marvel at the incredible diversity that has come into creation.
Satiric Phenomenologist
Posted by: Satiric Phenomenologist at May 15, 2006 07:19 PM (8Vs+5)
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Feel free to deny facts all you like. People ARE being told that they cannot read the Bible in their homes because of the government. Doesn't matter how much you like it or believe it -- that IS what's happening.
Thanks for stopping along.
Thanks for stopping along.
Posted by: Ogre at May 15, 2006 07:31 PM (/k+l4)
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