Socialism is welcome in NC
Rep. Verla Insko, D-Orange wants to pass a law in North Carolina -- and not just a law, but a Constitutional Amendment that would guarantee and require "Health Care for All." Yes, this person actually believes that there should be a North Carolina Constitutional RIGHT to health care.
This shows how incredibly insane some people are. It shows that they absolutely do not comprehend how the real world works. I have mentioned this before, but it obviously needs to be mentioned again -- you cannot have a right that requires someone else's labor -- it's not possible. You might think it would be nice for everyone to have health care. I agree, it would be nice. But it simply cannot work. Every time socialism is tried, it fails. Yes, some people will get better health care than others in a free society. If you don't like that, get up off your lazy rear and do something about it -- other than taking from me. If you want to open a free clinic, you go right ahead. If you want to give your money to pay the medical bills of those who cannot afford it, you go right ahead. But you simply have NO right to force me to work for someone else -- and that's what "Health care for all" really is. If everyone gets health care for free, then I am forced into slave labor to pay for their health care. Of course, then government will then dictate the cost. And then people will not work for that amount, and government will have to force people to provide that health care against their will. Health care for all might sound nice, but it is an absolutely horrible idea that can only lead to slavery.
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"you cannot have a right that requires someone else's labor"
That covers every thing you needed to say.
That covers every thing you needed to say.
Posted by: T F Stern at February 04, 2006 02:34 PM (dz3wA)
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I'm just curious, if this is a right... who was denying this right to people 200 years ago when there was no such thing. If it is a right, then I think I should have a right to have cable with all the pay channels. I'd probably use it more.
Posted by: Contagion at February 04, 2006 03:37 PM (Q5WxB)
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And yet, TF, so few people seem to understand or comprehend that. It's so clear and obvious, but apparently it's not fair. "Screw 'em," I say.
And Contagion, STOP IT! If the morons in the legislature hear that, it will be a right, too! Dammit, we already give free (meaning *I* pay for it) cable and pay TV to felons!
And Contagion, STOP IT! If the morons in the legislature hear that, it will be a right, too! Dammit, we already give free (meaning *I* pay for it) cable and pay TV to felons!
Posted by: Ogre at February 04, 2006 03:44 PM (+Gl1m)
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Ogre, you heartless animal! You actually feel that you should be able to keep the money you work for, and want to leave those who have no coverage to die in the streets! Where do I need to move to find a government which believes this too? You've said it, and so have I, we BOTH gave to charity in the past and still do, but I gave a larger percent of my pay when I was untaxed (as a minor) than I do now, because I HAD MORE. When you finally get enough of NC, you're welcome in TX (and don't forget, we have a VERY LARGE supply of beer, sammiches, and steak!)
Posted by: Smoke Eater at February 04, 2006 08:03 PM (K7uqT)
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I'll tell you, Texas is indeed tempting. As soon as you get open season on illegals, I'm there.
Posted by: Ogre at February 04, 2006 11:20 PM (+Gl1m)
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"You cannot have a right that involves someone else's labor - it's not possible."
Perhaps not, but society is based on the idea that we all get something for what we contribute.
This is the reason why we have societies - to improve our way of life in ways that we could never have accomplished as individuals, families, or even tribes.
Whether we have "rights" or not, as members of this society we have certain "expectations" that we, and our forefathers, have planned and worked towards, and sometimes given their lives for. Secure homes, foods from around the world, drugs that actually cure something, . . . much of the world does not have these things. We do because we have worked towards them.
Now we are working towards health care. A few pundits may refer to it as a "right". Maybe it isn't. But it is something worth having, something worth striving for, something that will make our lives worth living.
Can we afford universal health care? We can afford universal military protection, through the billions we, through our taxes, spend on the military. Is our safety a "right"? Probably not. Are there people I don't want protected with my tax dollars? Plenty.
But as a member of this society I know that a strong military is needed, and that unless it helps everyone, it helps no one.
In this age of bird flu, AIDS, and bioweapons, we cannot afford to have a class of unprotected people in our midst. To spend thousands of dollars on my health, only to catch something dangerous off the first panhandler I pass, is unthinkable.
Universal health care may gall you, but you put up with universal military care - and it hasn't turned this country into a socialist state yet.
Perhaps not, but society is based on the idea that we all get something for what we contribute.
This is the reason why we have societies - to improve our way of life in ways that we could never have accomplished as individuals, families, or even tribes.
Whether we have "rights" or not, as members of this society we have certain "expectations" that we, and our forefathers, have planned and worked towards, and sometimes given their lives for. Secure homes, foods from around the world, drugs that actually cure something, . . . much of the world does not have these things. We do because we have worked towards them.
Now we are working towards health care. A few pundits may refer to it as a "right". Maybe it isn't. But it is something worth having, something worth striving for, something that will make our lives worth living.
Can we afford universal health care? We can afford universal military protection, through the billions we, through our taxes, spend on the military. Is our safety a "right"? Probably not. Are there people I don't want protected with my tax dollars? Plenty.
But as a member of this society I know that a strong military is needed, and that unless it helps everyone, it helps no one.
In this age of bird flu, AIDS, and bioweapons, we cannot afford to have a class of unprotected people in our midst. To spend thousands of dollars on my health, only to catch something dangerous off the first panhandler I pass, is unthinkable.
Universal health care may gall you, but you put up with universal military care - and it hasn't turned this country into a socialist state yet.
Posted by: The Small Town Hick at February 05, 2006 03:14 AM (GYYm5)
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But wait -- it was you who said, "A few naive nations, however, believe that a government exists in order to create the best lifestyle possible for the citizens. I hope none of these naive people live in the United States."
So which is it? Does government exist to create the best lifestyle possible, including universal, free health care, or doesn't it?
Comparing a country's military to health care is like comparing apples to dump trucks.
So which is it? Does government exist to create the best lifestyle possible, including universal, free health care, or doesn't it?
Comparing a country's military to health care is like comparing apples to dump trucks.
Posted by: Ogre at February 05, 2006 06:20 AM (+Gl1m)
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This Congresswoman sounds like a typical Democrat, they want everyone to think that they don't have to work for anything. Afterall, the wealthy make enough money to pay for everyone else.
Posted by: Jon at February 05, 2006 12:48 PM (y6n8O)
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Fortunately, Jon, she's not a Congresswoman, but a state representative. So she'll only succeed in screwing up one state instead of all 50 as the national Democrats are trying to do...
Posted by: Ogre at February 05, 2006 06:32 PM (+Gl1m)
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