New London, Part II
Welcome to America, post-Kelo v. New London. In this, new America, property rights do not exist. And if you don't have rights to property, what rights can you possibly have? Your guns can be taken if you don't have a right to property. Your church can be taken. Your printing press can be taken. Is there anywhere left on this planet where men can be free?
In this case, the Florida city of Rivera Beach has decided that they want to build a yacht club. The fact that the land they want to use is currently occupied by private citizens only slows them down a little. The 6,000 mostly black people who live in that area are going to be tossed out on the street so the city can have a billion-dollar yacht club. Over 2,000 homes will be simply confiscated by the government so that the government can GIVE the land to a private individual. Nice country, huh? Oh, how I yearn to be free. Unrepentent Individual has more.
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Not to sound racist, but maybe displacing these African Americans will give the movement against this behavior a kick in the pants . . . you know, Jesse Jackson and his crew can set up camp and talk about how its oppression etc . . . Can't be oppressing so maybe it will be the catalyst for the U.S. Govt. to put a stop to it and reverse Kelo!
Posted by: oddybobo at October 04, 2005 09:42 AM (6Gm0j)
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That is a method that's being brought up to oppose this nastiness, unfortunately. I don't see Kelo being reversed any time soon -- you know how much the Supreme Court absolutely hates to contradict itself (at least obviously).
Posted by: Ogre at October 04, 2005 09:57 AM (/k+l4)
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That is because the Prez, forgot about me again!
Posted by: oddybobo at October 04, 2005 11:19 AM (6Gm0j)
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I emailed him and dropped your name...
Posted by: Ogre at October 04, 2005 11:54 AM (/k+l4)
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I live 10 minutes from Riviera Beach. Y'all don't know the whole story. It is front page news here every week.
First... white people are not claiming imminent domain. Black people run that town. It is the black people selling out other black people.
Second... it goes far beyond a yacht club. They're claiming imminent domain far and wide throughout Riviera Beach... taking land from many many black people, NOT just those effected by a Yacht Club. It is far worse than y'all know. They're talking about taking land and building a big frickin' Aquarium that would rival Miami's.
Third... it is making us all sick. All of us.
Fourth... Riviera Beach is one of the scummiest communities around. It is full of drug dealers and whores. I send my kids to private school because I was zoned to have my kids BUSSED into that school district. Over my dead damn body was I having my kids in school with those kids. It's our ghetto.
But... it doesn't make imminent domain right.
First... white people are not claiming imminent domain. Black people run that town. It is the black people selling out other black people.
Second... it goes far beyond a yacht club. They're claiming imminent domain far and wide throughout Riviera Beach... taking land from many many black people, NOT just those effected by a Yacht Club. It is far worse than y'all know. They're talking about taking land and building a big frickin' Aquarium that would rival Miami's.
Third... it is making us all sick. All of us.
Fourth... Riviera Beach is one of the scummiest communities around. It is full of drug dealers and whores. I send my kids to private school because I was zoned to have my kids BUSSED into that school district. Over my dead damn body was I having my kids in school with those kids. It's our ghetto.
But... it doesn't make imminent domain right.
Posted by: Bou at October 04, 2005 01:18 PM (5JHEt)
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Here's a link showing you what is under potential imminent domain. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/news/special_reports/riviera_beach/
From this link, http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2005/09/16/c1c_rbviking_0916.html
you get this quote: To do so, Riviera Beach has tied its future to a plan designed to lift the entire city out of economic doldrums. Five CityPlaces, complete with the Palm Beach County Convention Center and hotel, could fit neatly in the project area. It will take 15 to 20 years to complete. It involves the biggest potential eminent-domain action since 1954, when Washington, D.C., displaced 5,000 residents.
We're talking about a helluva lot more than a frickin' Yacht Club. The guy you linked should do his damn homework. Especially since his blog claims that white people are taking the land from the black people. Black people run Riviera Beach. They're behind this project.
From this link, http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2005/09/16/c1c_rbviking_0916.html
you get this quote: To do so, Riviera Beach has tied its future to a plan designed to lift the entire city out of economic doldrums. Five CityPlaces, complete with the Palm Beach County Convention Center and hotel, could fit neatly in the project area. It will take 15 to 20 years to complete. It involves the biggest potential eminent-domain action since 1954, when Washington, D.C., displaced 5,000 residents.
We're talking about a helluva lot more than a frickin' Yacht Club. The guy you linked should do his damn homework. Especially since his blog claims that white people are taking the land from the black people. Black people run Riviera Beach. They're behind this project.
Posted by: Bou at October 04, 2005 01:26 PM (5JHEt)
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Thanks for the very accurate updates! I missed where the other blog mentioned it was whites taking from blacks, I had the idea that it was political blacks taking from others.
And you're so right -- even though that place is a total cesspool, it doesn't make stealing right, even if it is the government stealing.
And you're so right -- even though that place is a total cesspool, it doesn't make stealing right, even if it is the government stealing.
Posted by: Ogre at October 04, 2005 02:11 PM (/k+l4)
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Oh wait, now I see what he's saying re: blacks vs. whites -- it may be the blacks that are throwing out the blacks, but the end beneficiaries of the conglomeration will be white people.
Posted by: Ogre at October 04, 2005 02:12 PM (/k+l4)
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Here's the URL for their city council... not a white person on it. http://www.rivierabch.com/page.asp?PageId=44
He's being arrogant. He has no clue who is getting that money and who is going to benefit. That is a black run city. Period.
Furthermore, I find it funny as hell that he doesn't even live down here yet he can claim what he has claimed. He doesn't know our politics. None of those folks know our politics.
I have no problem them saying, "Imminent Domain is bad... look what's happening to Riviera Beach" as my husband and I have had the same discussion. Good people are going to lose their homes. It is wrong. Their homes are going to be TAKEN and if you think they're going to get fair market value, you're wrong. They're about to get screwed.
BUT, to claim a rascist slant to it... that makes me ill. They need to live down here, live our politics and read our newspapers before they go screaming, "whitey makin' money off the black people" in any shape or form.
He's being arrogant. He has no clue who is getting that money and who is going to benefit. That is a black run city. Period.
Furthermore, I find it funny as hell that he doesn't even live down here yet he can claim what he has claimed. He doesn't know our politics. None of those folks know our politics.
I have no problem them saying, "Imminent Domain is bad... look what's happening to Riviera Beach" as my husband and I have had the same discussion. Good people are going to lose their homes. It is wrong. Their homes are going to be TAKEN and if you think they're going to get fair market value, you're wrong. They're about to get screwed.
BUT, to claim a rascist slant to it... that makes me ill. They need to live down here, live our politics and read our newspapers before they go screaming, "whitey makin' money off the black people" in any shape or form.
Posted by: Bou at October 04, 2005 03:45 PM (5JHEt)
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Without knowing most of the intricate details, I'm sure it's about money. The city council pushing it may be getting actual cash kickbacks, and if they're not, I'm sure they are absolutely drooling over the potential new tax income that they will get to spend.
Posted by: Ogre at October 04, 2005 03:48 PM (/k+l4)
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It's all about money. Politics in Palm Beach County, are all corrupt. Corruption knows no skin color.
They say it will bring much needed jobs to the area. As you described it accurately, it is our cesspool. No jobs, no nothing down there. But its just wrong. Where in are these people going to go?
To tell you how bad it is. the Catholic Diocese just closed the local Catholic School there. Nobody would drive their kids to go there... even if it was surrounded by chain link. The Diocese got tired of subsidizing the school and closed the doors. The kids were sent to our school and neighboring Parish schools. (GREAT kids, by the way. It's been a real pleasure having them in our school on many fronts.)
Anyway, its real simple for people to claim rascism on any account. This is not one of them.
They say it will bring much needed jobs to the area. As you described it accurately, it is our cesspool. No jobs, no nothing down there. But its just wrong. Where in are these people going to go?
To tell you how bad it is. the Catholic Diocese just closed the local Catholic School there. Nobody would drive their kids to go there... even if it was surrounded by chain link. The Diocese got tired of subsidizing the school and closed the doors. The kids were sent to our school and neighboring Parish schools. (GREAT kids, by the way. It's been a real pleasure having them in our school on many fronts.)
Anyway, its real simple for people to claim rascism on any account. This is not one of them.
Posted by: Bou at October 04, 2005 04:26 PM (5JHEt)
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Let the comparison of Palm Beach to New Orleans begin! 
As for the jobs, that idea is crap. Does anyone really believe that the current residents are going to get work from this thing? First of all, where will they live, since the city is throwing them out on the street!!!
As for the jobs, that idea is crap. Does anyone really believe that the current residents are going to get work from this thing? First of all, where will they live, since the city is throwing them out on the street!!!
Posted by: Ogre at October 04, 2005 05:12 PM (iJFc9)
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You are absolutely correct. Not one person they are displacing is going to get a job out of this.
Here's another thing. The City Council wants to revitalize this area as has been done with others nearby. They can build what they want there, but the bottom line is, one block over will still be crack houses and whores. It won't be safe at night. The scum will still come back.
Here's the crime stats for Riviera Beach in 2002: http://rivierabeachfl.areaconnect.com/crime1.htm
It compares to the National average. Scary stuff... and I hear 2005's numbers are worse. Now... where's all that scum going to go? You can move them off all that property... but they aren't REALLY going away.
They can shine that area as much as they want... but I'm not going to do business there and I'm not taking my family either. ESPECIALLY not at night.
Here's another thing. The City Council wants to revitalize this area as has been done with others nearby. They can build what they want there, but the bottom line is, one block over will still be crack houses and whores. It won't be safe at night. The scum will still come back.
Here's the crime stats for Riviera Beach in 2002: http://rivierabeachfl.areaconnect.com/crime1.htm
It compares to the National average. Scary stuff... and I hear 2005's numbers are worse. Now... where's all that scum going to go? You can move them off all that property... but they aren't REALLY going away.
They can shine that area as much as they want... but I'm not going to do business there and I'm not taking my family either. ESPECIALLY not at night.
Posted by: Bou at October 04, 2005 08:56 PM (5JHEt)
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Ready for the WORST news, Bou? The scum will move. You're 10 minutes away. If this goes through, at least half of them will move to YOUR town. Seriously. If this continues, and I were you, I'd be putting my house on the market before they start moving -- because they WILL move.
Posted by: Ogre at October 04, 2005 09:29 PM (iJFc9)
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They can't afford to move into the neighboring towns. There will still be areas they can live around where they are reclaiming. I guess they'll just be packed in closer.
Palm Beach County... I think it is the oddest place I've ever lived. In one second you can be in Yuppieville... the next you're in a ghetto... and then just 2 seconds later... you're on Palm Beach amongst some of the biggest wealth in this nation.
Palm Beach County... I think it is the oddest place I've ever lived. In one second you can be in Yuppieville... the next you're in a ghetto... and then just 2 seconds later... you're on Palm Beach amongst some of the biggest wealth in this nation.
Posted by: Bou at October 04, 2005 11:11 PM (5JHEt)
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Or they'll take over other areas. All it will take is a few people willing to sell to them.
Posted by: Ogre at October 04, 2005 11:15 PM (iJFc9)
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BTW, missed this post some how. Bou hit it on the nail... and Ogre, they can't afford to buy in WPB. A $100k house is now selling for $400k. I doubt they'll get the appropriate amount of money... I do not know where they will end up, but this is not good. And some of those people are older people who have lived there all of their lives. This is just not right.
Posted by: vw bug at October 06, 2005 01:57 PM (mD8Rg)
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VW, specifically when I mentioned them moving, I was talking about the scum that Bou mentioned. They're not going to buy a house, they're going to search for and find abandoned houses and take them over -- just hope none of them are in your neighborhood. The ones who have houses now will, as Bou pointed out, likely live in apartments for a long time.
Posted by: Ogre at October 06, 2005 02:29 PM (/k+l4)
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