Grrr!
That Bastard Lileks™ has a dual-G5 Macintosh.
And I don't. Sniffle.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at 09:33 PM
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Oh no! He killed Kenny! He's a bastard!
Posted by: Susie at September 27, 2003 11:09 PM (0+cMc)
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He did? Bastard!
Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 27, 2003 11:12 PM (jtW2s)
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The dual G5 is a sweet machine. It does, unfortunately, have one serious flaw. Its memory access design guarantees serious bottlenecks. I wouldn't turn one down, though, especially since I need a new server ASAP.
Posted by: Rossz at September 28, 2003 03:52 AM (43SjN)
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Its memory access design guarantees serious bottlenecks.
I wasn't aware of that. Do you have a link to more information?
I wasn't aware of that. Do you have a link to more information?
Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 28, 2003 12:29 PM (jtW2s)
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The dual g5 system has a single memory controller, which is going to cause delays when both processors need data/instructions at the same time (and that could happen a lot) - one of them is going to have to wait. They have done a lot to optimize performance of the memory controller, which will help.
FYI, the Athlon64 processor has the memory controller built right in, so you end up with a controller for each processor. A controller for each processor is really needed for optimum performance. However, for typical use, e.g. a web server, it's not really that important. If you start running crypto cracking software or real time weather modeling, you'll want the extra performance boost.
FYI, the Athlon64 processor has the memory controller built right in, so you end up with a controller for each processor. A controller for each processor is really needed for optimum performance. However, for typical use, e.g. a web server, it's not really that important. If you start running crypto cracking software or real time weather modeling, you'll want the extra performance boost.
Posted by: Rossz at September 29, 2003 04:27 AM (43SjN)
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Right. Yeah, the Opteron is a more scalable design, but the dual G5 is still better than, say, a dual Xeon system. (1GHz vs. 400 or 533MHz bus.) (Though the bus designs are somewhat different.)
I'm not sure how much of an issue this is on a dual-processor system, but it does seem to be a real problem with quad-processor Xeon boxes.
I'm not sure how much of an issue this is on a dual-processor system, but it does seem to be a real problem with quad-processor Xeon boxes.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 29, 2003 07:49 AM (jtW2s)
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I'd have to agree. I don't particularly care for Intel designs. I always buy AMD (apples being way overpriced for what you get) - and I'll be sticking with 32-bit processors for a while, I'm afraid, since I can't justify a 64-bit processor for my needs (web server, mail server, MySQL database, etc). BTW, unless you have very specific needs such as graphics renderings, there is not a single good reason to spend the money on a G5 (or any other 64-bit system).
Ok, one good reason. The bragging rights are damn important.
Ok, one good reason. The bragging rights are damn important.
Posted by: Rossz at September 29, 2003 02:02 PM (43SjN)
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