I'll Tell You Why

I was looking for examples of the portal system I'm planning to install at mu.nu, and I found one that was very clean and elegant. So I registered myself there, and started reading. A lot of posts repeating news from Slashdot, and one regarding the recent bombing in Spain.

And the question came:

Now when news and papers here in Europe are all full of this and millions protest against terrorism, it makes my blood pressure going to the sky. I wonder; how can journalists and politicians still be so stupid that all they can say is those same old phrases all over again? "We must fight against terrorism..." And people go to the street....
If only someone would be interested of what these "terrorist" want really??? A piece of land perhaps? Maybe individuality and respect as a human beeings? How difficult would that be arrange? Huh???

I know I'm probably just pissing into the wind, but I replied:

You ask what the terrorists want.
Well, they've stated their desires explicitly many times. You just have to listen to them.
They want Israel destroyed, and the Jews exterminated.
They want America destroyed.
They want the entire world to become an Islamic state.
They want to wipe out freedom of speech, freedom of association and freedom of religion.
They want to subjugate women, to turn them from human beings into chattels.
This is not supposition, this is what they have stated, specifically. This is what they do in their own societies.
Another 200 people have been murdered, and 1500 more injured, with the aim of imposing their views upon the world.
Why do they hate us?
They hate us because we have built a successful society, where theirs has failed. Because our women are independent citizens. Because we disagree with them.
They hate us for our freedom.
They say this themselves. Read any of the dispatches sent out by any of the terrorist groups. Listen to the sermons being given in mosques across the Islamic world.
In their view, we can convert to Islam, be enslaved, or die. They give us no other choices, but we can choose instead to fight.

I wonder how long that post will last there...

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 11:04 PM

Comments

1 Bravo!!!

Posted by: Susie at March 23, 2004 04:56 AM (foeQj)

2 Oh--I forgot to mention--interesting that he thinks "millions" are protesting, when actual reports indicate it was "thousands"...

Posted by: Susie at March 23, 2004 04:59 AM (foeQj)

3 Fuzzy liberal math being taught to our children!

Posted by: Madfish Willie at March 23, 2004 12:30 PM (lZgx6)

4 You've gone into the lion's den. Unfortunately you can't teach stupid people who's minds are closed.

Posted by: Simon at March 23, 2004 05:18 PM (UKqGy)

5 Yeah, but stupid doesn't automatically mean closed mind. If it makes just one person stop and think about it, it was worth it.

Not that I'm hopeful or anything.

Posted by: Ted at March 23, 2004 09:37 PM (ZjSa7)

6 But what about Enron, huh? And Halliburton? And Bush's NG service? Huh? Huh? Huh?

Fucking clueless Lefties piss me off.

Posted by: The Commissar at March 24, 2004 02:51 AM (VpkLq)

7 Well, don't fuck 'em then.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 24, 2004 03:06 AM (+S1Ft)

8 Bravo! Hurrah! Mindless chest-beating! It's great in here. (Just be careful you don't slip on the drool.)

Posted by: Bugbear at March 24, 2004 07:45 AM (bBbEZ)

9 Good post.

I note that according to Lt.Smash, the protest he went to only number in the hundreds (and possibly not even that many).

Posted by: Ozguru at March 24, 2004 08:56 AM (/acvO)

10 Bugbear, you're still a putz.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 24, 2004 12:09 PM (+S1Ft)

11 And anyway, Bugbear, you putz, where the hell do you get off calling this "mindless chest-beating"?

I know you got a negative score for your reading comprehension test, so I'll say it again in italics: This is what the terrorists themselves say. This is what they do in their own societies.

Putz.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 24, 2004 12:46 PM (+S1Ft)

12 because piling on is, well, fun..

Terrorist have also stated...

They want democracy destroyed.

Posted by: jimi at March 25, 2004 01:49 AM (zE10C)

13 Very good questions and even better answer. Will the politicians listen, will the idot bleeding hearts who whine and whinge for the "freedom fighters cause" take note. Probably not. Remember the old saying - "!none so blind as those who will not see, and none so deaf as those who will not hear."

Why let truth and facts get in the way of ideology?

Posted by: The Gray Monk at March 25, 2004 04:43 AM (U5kQV)

14 Very nice post Pixy, but let us please be mindful that not every Islamic person is a terrorist nor are terroristic sermons bein' given in every mosque. The real tragedy of terrorism is that it has instilled a hatred for a religion and a people in many who were previously ignorant of their existence.

Posted by: notGeorge at March 25, 2004 09:54 AM (JCxVY)

15 The protest I covered had less than 100 but it was only New Zealands capital and we can get 80,000 turn out for a LOTR party so that sounds about right.

Posted by: Murray at March 25, 2004 11:08 AM (zAUYo)

16 nG:

Not every Muslim is a terrorist, no. But it is almost pretty much standard in the Arab world for sermons to call for the destruction of Israel and the United States.

Islam is a very different religion to Christianity or Judaism. It has not been through a Reformation and Enlightenment the way Christianity has. It is not at all accepting of other opinion. It has been derailed in recent decades by Wahhabism, a particular form of extremist Islam, but even apart from that the history of Islam is not a good one.

Whenever this criticism is raised, people point out the cultural and scientific flowering of Islam during Europe's Dark Ages. Two responses to this: First, much of this was due to their access to Greek and Roman literature and to India; second, what have they done for us in the last thousand years?

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 25, 2004 11:56 AM (+S1Ft)

17 Where I live, we have a hell of a lot of venomous snakes. A few are harmless.
Policy here is, if it looks like a snake and moves like a snake, it gets shot as a snake.
Seems to work.

Posted by: Keith at March 26, 2004 01:23 PM (fyrCe)

18 There are moderate Muslims, but they don't do a good enough job of voicing their opposition to the extremist garbage. Those who continue to be lukewarm in their opposition to terrorism do indeed risk being mistaken for the poisonous kind of snake.

Posted by: Little Miss Attila at March 31, 2004 08:12 PM (AFscM)

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